No point arguing. The people who think guns should be gone will always think they should be gone. The people who don't think we should give up our gun rights will always think that way. I would just like to point out that when that fucktard drove through a children's parade and killed 6 people and injured 62 others, did anyone talk about anything other than the shitbag who did it? Nope. Because shootings are literally the only time we seem to blame the inanimate object and not the person who wields it. People can't wait to jump on social media and start screaming about gun control after a shooting. Has anything been done in the past 20 years to address the actual root of the problem? Has anything been done to combat the actual reason for the shootings and not the method?
This is the way it was posted, It made it look like the dead HS kid was talking about gun rights since they are in quotes above him, as if he were a gun rights advocate and then ironically got shot by a gun.
I'm not sure how that's anything other than reporting the news. Was anyone blaming the SUV? Was there serious calls for SUV reform? Of course not. I'm talking about blame. Reporting that there's a shooting isn't the same as immediately jumping on social media and screaming about gun control. If a nerdy high school kid stole his parents car and drove it into the high school marching band, would anyone blame it on the car?
It's complicated. In the suv terrorist attack, people are saying the media is protecting this BLM terrorist by calling it a SUV crash instead of a racially motivated terrorist attack, which it was
Bingo. The push for gun control is a waste of time. It's absolutely detrimental to progress toward any actual solutions.
Nobody was blaming the van. Nobody was asking for van restrictions. Nobody was asking for background checks to buy a van.
And I appreciate that Hoopguru brought it up. It's good to look at all of these arguments which are often brought up and dissect them. Once we look at the data and see the actual scope of the problem and how expensive and ineffective the current proposed solutions are we can hope to have a meaningful discussion about solutions which can a actually make a difference.
How many times do I have to say it, gun control is next to useless unless it's nationally enforced for obvious reasons.
next time a Car rams a crowd, im blaming these guys: https://www.scca.com/pages/club-racing Bout the logic as blaming the nra for a mass shooting… “We need equality! We need to take care of all!”( which is good) but lets dismiss the mental issues of the disturbed and focus efforts on an inanimate object… (which is extremely hypocritical to the first quoted line)
But isn't the low hanging fruit the easiest, most accessable? It's impossible to get rid of guns in the US. Gun control can not work here. I don't see how it can be low hanging. I'd say it's more like the bait in a never ending trap. It distracts you enough to keep you from finding the good stuff just around the corner.
It has been nationally enforced in other countries. And none of them have larger drops in violent crime or murder rates. Australia has more guns now than it did in the 90s before gun control, and US violence has dropped more than all of Australia, the UK, and Brazil... Brazil actually got worse. Mexico has gun laws similar to the UK. And only 1 gun store in the whole country. Gun control has never been beneficial to any population anywhere in the world.
The focus needs to be both on mental health and guns. Not one or the other. We need to keep guns out of mentally ill people's hands. Parents need to put in an effort to keep guns out of their kids hands. This kid was online saying the gun was his and did a countdown to killing people. The dad was in to see the principal about it the morning of and he didn't go and check to make sure his gun was safe? There needs to be focus from all points in this. That's how a massive issue like this gets solved.
You mean like the anti-car barriers installed at places like the Moda center, Las Vegas strip, and other parade routes? Yes, people talk and take actions to try and prevent things like that from happening again. That's a very normal reaction. I'm sure the parade route where the fucktard drove will have anti-car barriers, I'm sure the Rose Festival parades will have car barriers.
