Religion From the Rector at the St John's Episcopal Church in Washington DC

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  1. lawai'a

    lawai'a Well-Known Member

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    yes he did, in explaining his fulfillment of the covenant and that those that would follow his word would face opposition as he upset the apple cart that was the status quo, and he would to set the world on fire as the living Word.
    not sure how loving our neighbor as oneself is different from loving one another?
     
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    lawai'a Well-Known Member

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    other than vanquishing the moneylenders from the temple of his Father, where else could one find Him condoning violence in the gospels of mark, luke, mathew or john?
     
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    God/Jesus certainly doesn't condone violence. But, he absolutely condones justice. God is a just God.
     
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    History is a shit storm of injustice...if God condone's justice...he has no influence at all...
     
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    then the word christian denotes a follower of the teachings of Christ. the definition of a christian must follow as one who follows the teachings of the Lord. where does he speak of justice in the new testament except in relation to salvation? His words speak of a justice handed out to those who withhold it from others but in the coming of his kingdom not of this earth.
     
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    If there is a God I think we are more like a science project he observes without influence or interference
     
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    I think we're more like God's herpes....we're forever and only get his attention when we have a flare up
     
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    I'd like to clarify something: are you saying YOU think Trump's actions may be god-ordained?
     
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    Holy Shit!
     
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    I certainly respect and can appreciate the fact that you are bringing God's Word into these discussions. That said, I'm not quite certain what conclusions you're trying to draw here? I understand the scriptures on love. Shall our government leaders simply love on the perpetrators until they settle down and go away?
     
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    Or maybe we are just a fun show he is watching while eating popcorn, to see how fucked up we can make things here on Earth

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    2 Corinthians 11:13-15
    For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
    Matthew 7:1
    “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
     
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    do you condone the violence perpetrated on the peaceful protesters at ST. John's church?
     
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    Seldom am I into bible quotes, but well done. Please continue your biblical asswhooping...
     
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    Ahh, OK, so you're implying she's a false prophet? Well, that's certainly your prerogative. I'm certainly not going to judge her in that regard, though - especially since many of the prophetic words she uttered in July, 2016 are manifesting themselves.

    Acts 2:16-21
    But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel: “‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy. And I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke; the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day. ...

    Deuteronomy 18:18-22
    ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously.

    As a direct aside, naturally, I take certain chances in here when I make posts regarding my faith, my journey to my faith, and my value. I'm not afraid nor ashamed in any way when I do, though. I've said many times in here before that I would've voted for John Kasich and would support still today if he had chose to run. No way I'm voting for Biden. Some in here still think I'm a one issue (right-to-life) voter, but I support Trump on many more issues than I ever would Biden.

    So, Trump's my guy...despite his Bible-thumping photo-op that many are now comparing to Dukakis' helmet shot.
     
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    2 Timothy 4:3
    For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,

    Jeremiah 23:16
    Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord.

    not implying any thing but that there is plenty of guidance available for true discernment and as with jeremiah's quote the danger is spoken about in the old testament as well as new.
    i have found the timothy quote especially relevant when navigating my own hearts' truthful discernment in a modern age.
     
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    I'm not disagreeing with any of that. I'm taking it that you are a never Trump and will be voting for Biden?
     
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    We know Trump disbanded pandemic response teams. He also disbanded criminal justice reform, de-escalation, and community policing initiatives.

    By their fruits shall the know them.
     
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    Your posts reveal so many deficiencies that I honestly get a little toxic shock from them.
     
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    The fact that we discuss God proves that the concept of God exists, therefore, God, per se, exists.

    The real question is - did man create God or did it exist without man?
     

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