How old are you? What personal memories can you give of that time. You're making such a semantical argument here. You've spinned this into a debate of whether, or not Chicago was a racist city 45 years ago, which I've never denied. You're trying to deflect from the fact that there is plenty of racists in the Republican party. Shit, you were in denial about the Re-Nig stickers.
You have no idea what point I'm trying to make, just like how you missed my Kaminsky Field reference. Answer the question. It's so simple, even you can respond.
This thread never intended to be a circle jerk for reminiscing about time spent in Chicago. Whatever floats your boat though.
You missed the point that I was full of shit about living in Chicago. I didn't know I needed to paint out the sarcasm. If you sit down in a room full of 50 Oregonians and poll them about how many have lived in Chicago at some point, how many are going to say they have?
Stumbling distance from my favorite Hyde Park watering hole--Ciral's House of Tiki (R.I.P). Even the coop is gone.
See, I tend to believe what people say about themselves on this forum. What's the point of lying? As for living in Chicago, it's the nation's third largest metro area. I bet lots of Oregonians have spent time in Chicago.
Visited? A couple times. Lived, okay. The way you change little details through the course of a thread gives me a headache. As for believing strangers on the internet? Wow, really? Such an outlet for liars.
Ike was president the day I was born. And I never made any case there are no racists in the Republican Party. However, the Republican party was founded as a civil rights party, republicans were slaughtered in the south while working with blacks so they could exercise their rights. The Democratic Party founded the KKK, and through 2010 had a former KKK grand dragon serving in the senate (he filibustered the civil rights act). Yet when the KKK/Nazi asshole David Duke ran for president in the republican party, he got 47,000 votes, or 0.04% (ZERO POINT ZERO FOUR PERCENT) of the overall popular vote - there's your racists in the republican party. When George Wallace ran for president, he took 20% of democrats with him and won 5 states and 46 electoral votes along with 9.9M popular votes as a 3rd party candidate. Republicans passed the Civil Rights legislation of the 1960s. Reagan appointed the first woman to the Supreme Court. Colin Powell was appointed the first black man to be Secy. of State. Condie Rice was appointed the first black woman. Gerald Ford appointed Bill Coleman as Secy. of Transportation way back in the mid '70s. W's Secy. of education was Rod Paige (and the cabinet diverse if you consider asian and hispanic members as well). Eric Holder, the current Atty. General served in that post for W in 2001 and was appointed superior court judge by Reagan. Then there's Clarence Thomas. Democrats are pissed he has "THE" black seat on the Supreme Court. I find it racist to assume there can only be one black member of the court - I'd be satisfied if all 9 were black since it's not skin color that is a qualification for the job, but it is the quality of their legal reasoning. So from 1980 to 2008, 28 years, republicans were president 20 of them. When it was all said and done, a lot of republicans voted for a black man, Obama, for president. Nothing like republican racism to keep that from happening. So you post a picture of an offensive bumper sticker. There's ZERO correlation between it and republicans at all. The guys who made it and sold it are bigoted assholes, maybe we agree on that. Yet I read up on the story of this bumper sticker and it was for sale for THREE years and didn't sell at all. All of a sudden it sold like crazy. Forgive me if I don't see it as anything less than a cheap political dirty trick, and have no reason to suspect that anyone but the Obama campaign itself bought a bunch of them to drive up sales and to use that as PR. Kinda like the Jim Wright book deal. http://www.nytimes.com/1988/06/12/us/behind-jim-wright-s-book-his-friends.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
Why would someone go through the trouble of lying about onesself? Are you telling me you're not a UPS employee?
There's idiots on both sides, I've never argued that. But, to say the bible thumping, redneck, confederate flag flying hillbillies from South Carolina, Mississippi, Georgia and all of the dixieland isn't a large part of the Republican constituency is just silly. I have cousins in Missouri who say they have friends that are told flat out in church who to vote for. The fact there's a black President in the White House must be a tough pill for them to swallow.
Why do people lie in the first place? I have no idea. But, how hard is it to lie through a keyboard and computer screen. I hope you aren't that naive.
Not quite so sure about that. Obama got more of the vote in 2008 there than Kerry did in 2004 and by quite a bit more.
That had more to do with first time voters coming out in masses and drowning out the votes of the racists down in dixie country. Ted Nugent's mindset is shared with a healthy amount of those disillusioned folks that I'm speaking of.
And I find this quote by Nugent to be spot on: "Wasserman Schultz is such a brain-dead, soulless idiot"
haven't read the thread, will go back now. Foolishly started on page 2, but will throw out I was born in Chicago, and have met quite a few of us in Portland. Irrelevant, but whatever.
Yeah, go back. Romney was born in Mexico. I'm sure he's rubbed elbows with quite a few that have been to Cancun.
