Future of NBA in Seattle.......

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  1. ripcityboy

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    To be fair, Charlotte deserves a shot too. That's a baseball mad area, one of the last in the country. I can't imagine they wouldn't listen to a NC group.
     
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    I was actually thinking of Sid Gilman and Lance Alsworth. That's how hard San Diego got fucked. They revolutionized NFL offenses TWICE and still nobody gave a shit about the history of the franchise. That's why I know they wouldn't wait ten seconds before deciding our fate. The only thing that matters is $$$$.

     
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    Yeah, Charlotte is one that would be competing with Montreal for the other spot. Their bid, if they have one, won't effect whether or not Portland gets a team.
     
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    I actually got that from your previous question :smile:
     
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    Agree 100%. See below.

    Apples to oranges.two significant reasons why this wont happen.
    1. Portland is a one major sport town. seattle had all three.
    2. Portland is in the midst of a major hotel boom with the goal to land an all star game. If we lose the team then this boom could devestate our economy. Not enough going on to support these hotels if the team leaves. No way the city lets that happen.
     
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    You're suggesting that the hotel boom is being done land an all star game/weekend? A one time deal?

    The Blazers landing a one time deal is not the goal of the city for building new hotels. Bringing in bigger conventions is more likely the goal. I know that the Blazers leaving would be bad for the city, but to give the team that much credit for hotels being built is laughable.
     
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    This city wont have anything like the all star game with regards to impact.
    Yes the hotels are for more than just the asg, but if you don't think that is the majority factor you are fooling yourself. The exposure that the weekend provides will in turn create more conventions to want to be held here.
    No doubt the asg is a one time thing but that one time thing is as big as all other conventions combined for like five years.
    Name anything else that will bring anything close to the star power, revenue and overall shine to the world for a weekend like the asg would give us?
     
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    I think you're over-stating just how much potential future business the asg/asw brings.
     
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    Its possible I am believing the wrong sources here -
    Ive been led to believe that most ‘events’ all star games, olympics, superbowls, and things that really can grind a city to a halt for days or more are normally more of a financial burden overall then they are a boon. Now for a really large city say LA or NY they’re so immense they have the infrastructure to handle those type of events without much of an issue. A city portlands size though would be debilitated for a while, which in the long run would cause businesses to be unable to do business, which hurts the local economy.

    Ive got no real proof of that other than Ive heard talking heads on the radio or TV allude to that, I could be very wrong.
     
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    They weren't repairs; an all-new arena was built. Yes, it wasn't a show-off cathedral, but the Sonics drew up the plans. Soon after it was finished, they started wanting more. They later admitted that asking for more had been their plan all along.

    Portland is lucky to have an owner who treats the team like a charity and doesn't try to make a profit. From any other owner, Oregon would get the same demands that Seattle got. At least Oregon has an income tax.
     
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    I don't know what you are talking about. If it was new why did it look like complete ass 5 years later?
     
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    It was brand new but small, e.g. narrower corridors than Rose Garden. Describe what you mean by complete ass.
     
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    Are you talking about renovating Key Arena? The seats were all torn up and broken (everywhere in the arena). Everything was old, outdated, and falling apart. It was dark and gloomy in there. The roof looked like it was going to fall at any moment. I really have no idea what you are talking about. It's like you think there is some mythical arena they built.
     
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    Possibly. But you didnt name anythign else that would come close to producing the revenue or spotlight on Portland.
     
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    Its not just about that weekend though. Its about what that weekend does for Portlands name getting on the map of businesses looking for locations to expand to. Oh Portland has an ASG? Its hot and hapening. Maybe we should consider expanding there.
    Or all of the advertisements about the ASG priro to it happening all constantly mentioning Porltand for a year. This spikes interest in investors.
    This is an entertainment world with fame gaining a spotlight. Lets let that light shine on us and see what happens.

    Anyhow, all im saying is I highly doubt the city/league is going to let the team go considering the hotel boom going on around the moda center. to lose their single greatest revenue would stagnate the rose quarters growth and create a blown quarter instead....

    When have you seen a hotel boom like this centralized around a stadium in a single sport town and then see the team leave a short time later?

    I cant think of any.
     
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    I kind of question how many companies big enough to move that ‘needle’ care about where asg’s are being played. Im not really for or against an asg in portland as I mostly find mysef apathetic towards it.

    Edit: Oh and Im not worried about the team moving.
     
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    Im not talking about Intell saying oh... shit. Portland has an ASG now? Lets double our plant production there.

    im talking about small to mid sized companies that are looking to expand and branch out. but mostly overall growth.
    People come, that creates the need for more jobs, which means more business. MOre business means more jobs which means people will come here.

    Now there IS the argument, do we want much more growth in Portland?
    I'm addicted to growth(there is a joke there someone will find im sure) i'm fascinated with it on many aspects.

    But yes, I think an event of that caliber puts a megalight on this city that it hasn't had before and I think that peaks interest on most levels.

    Kind of like the olympics, we are already seeing growth just by seeking it. It is forcing the city to grow to be able to handle the capacity such an event. so some of the growth comes before it even gets scheduled.

    Yes I do believe ASG's provide decent growth for a city of our size.

    A larger city, while being able to handle the logistics of it better, is also able to absorb the excitement with other major events goign on and thus is not a growth spurt for them like it could be for us.

    just my opinion though. Im not schooled on all the facets and don't know all the facts.
     
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    It was about 10 years old then. The new Okie team owners were trying to motivate Seattlites to give them a new half-billion dollar stadium. Another reason to let it run down that last year was...it was their last year. They were leaving.

    That must not have been in its prime before the Sonics were on the verge of leaving. Or was this even later, after they left?

    That's a 2018 article about future construction.

    I'm talking about when a new arena was built about 20-25 years ago. It wasn't just renovated. I saw it being built from the ground up after they tore down the old one, down to deep underground. The media likes the word renovation, but it wasn't just renovated.
     

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