Game 1: Golden State Warriors @ Dallas Mavericks

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Apr 23 2007, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Honestly do you understand what I even said? You say in this game thread, if Mavs want to win a ring, they need to keep the superstar in check. Yet in the other contenders game threads(Suns/Spurs), you said jack sh*t and they had the same problem in that game. Keeping the superstar in check.</div>I didn't catch most of the Spurs-Nuggets game outside of the whole 1st quarter (I was watching the Sopranos), and in the Suns game Kobe was making extremely tough shots and eventually cooled off. Last year in the playoffs, outside of the game where Bell was out, Kobe was held in check. In a slowed down game, the Suns have 2 very good perimeter defenders, and I trust Bowen moreso than Harris, Terry, Stack or Howard. Hinrich is arguably the best perimeter defender in the league, Battier is up there and very versatile, AK-47 is an elite defender, etc... Mavs don't have this kind of player, and IMO it will cost them from winning a ring. I have said this since the beginning of the year, and I'm sticking to it.I bring up Dallas so much because it consistently happens to them more than any of the other top teams, and it actually cost them a series last year in which SHAQ averaged only 14PPG. Had it not been for a chokejob, they should have been outed by the Rockets 2 years back for the same reasons.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Apr 23 2007, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Unlike the Spurs and Suns, the Mavs have no great lockdown perimeter defender. Yes, every team needs to worry about opposing superstars, but most of the top tier teams have a guy that can keep the opposing superstar guard/SF in check (keeping him at or near his averages).Suns have Bell/Marion, Spurs have Bowen (although he is deteriorating as a defender due to age, and that was evident tonight), Rockets have Battier, Jazz have AK-47, Detroit has Prince, Chicago has Hinrich, etc... Mavs have no one like this, and in the playoffs where guard play is flourishing more than ever, this will cause problems. It should have cost them against the Rockets 2 years back, did cost them vs the Heat last year, and if they cannot do a much better job on Davis it will cost them a series win vs an 8th seed.</div>Now that is just ridiculous, the Suns have Bell/Marion, but they really aren't locking anyone down so that is really just going against what you have to say. Kobe lit them up for 39 points today, and with relative ease. Carmelo Anthony dropped 30 on the Spurs with Bowen out there.The point is, the great perimeter scorers in the league are going to score come playoff time. To say that the Mavericks are not going to do anything because the great perimeter scorers in the league score alot on them in the playoffs is just ridiculous. That is when they are going to try to score the most, because they are going to try to raise their team.
     
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    ^Exactly mine, and most intelligent people on here, thoughts exactly.The Mavs would have never made the Finals last year if what Nitro was saying held any water.Hell if the Mavs had held on and won the Finals, I think he'd still be spewing the same crap...Maybe he just has something against the Mavs...but who knows.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Apr 23 2007, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I didn't catch most of the Spurs-Nuggets game outside of the whole 1st quarter (I was watching the Sopranos), and in the Suns game Kobe was making extremely tough shots and eventually cooled off. Last year in the playoffs, outside of the game where Bell was out, Kobe was held in check. In a slowed down game, the Suns have 2 very good perimeter defenders, and I trust Bowen moreso than Harris, Terry, Stack or Howard. Hinrich is arguably the best perimeter defender in the league, Battier is up there and very versatile, AK-47 is an elite defender, etc... Mavs don't have this kind of player, and IMO it will cost them from winning a ring. I have said this since the beginning of the year, and I'm sticking to it.</div>Kobe really wasn't held in check, he was looking to play differently than he had during the regular season. With the Suns having no big men in the game, the smart thing to do was work the ball in to Odom and Brown. Which is what Kobe was doing, passing to make his team better. The game tonight proved, that no matter what Bell does, Kobe is going to score on him no matter what. As for the making tough shots, Davis was making those same tough shots against the Mavericks tonight. Terry was in his face on a few of those three pointers he shot up, and was waving his hand while Davis was off balanced, and Davis still made them. There isn't much someone can do against that, that's just good/lucky shooting.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Apr 23 2007, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Now that is just ridiculous, the Suns have Bell/Marion, but they really aren't locking anyone down so that is really just going against what you have to say. Kobe lit them up for 39 points today, and with relative ease. Carmelo Anthony dropped 30 on the Spurs with Bowen out there.The point is, the great perimeter scorers in the league are going to score come playoff time. To say that the Mavericks are not going to do anything because the great perimeter scorers in the league score on alot on them in the playoffs is just ridiculous. That is when they are going to try to score the most, because they are going to try to raise their team.</div>Suns play a high octane offense so the stats are skewed, and with Kobe he hit some ridiculously tough shots in the first half. Last year when it was slowed down, Bell held Kobe in check. Whenever Marion is on Dirk he gives him a ton of trouble (same with Kobe, but with Odom on the floor he can't guard Kobe). If you watched the Spurs game, at least most of first half, you would have seen that Bowen wasn't on Carmelo, he was on AI until he got into foul trouble (AI went 0-4 in 1st qaurter, then 6-6 after Bowen was out/not guarding him).Of course superstars are going to score come playoff time, but it is totally unacceptable to let D-Wade score 40PPG through the last 4 games of the NBA Finals and basically single handedly beat you. T-Mac totally lit them up 2 years ago, and it just seems to be a reoccuring theme. When game is winding down, and game is slowed down where defense really shines, I feel all of the top tier teams outside of Miami have a guy that can keep the opposing superstar guard to reasonable standards. Dallas doesn't have this, and with the way things are shaping up, they will have to go through Davis, T-Mac, Nash, and one of the great swingmen from the East before winning a title.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe really wasn't held in check, he was looking to play differently than he had during the regular season. With the Suns having no big men in the game, the smart thing to do was work the ball in to Odom and Brown. Which is what Kobe was doing, passing to make his team better. The game tonight proved, that no matter what Bell does, Kobe is going to score on him no matter what.</div>I disagree. Kobe was not "passing to make his team better"; he took 33 shots (10 more than his season average), and only got one assist. How was he passing to make his team better? And if you keep somebody to under 40 points on 33 shot attempts you're doing your job.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Apr 23 2007, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Suns play a high octane offense so the stats are skewed, and with Kobe he hit some ridiculously tough shots in the first half. Last year when it was slowed down, Bell held Kobe in check. Whenever Marion is on Dirk he gives him a ton of trouble (same with Kobe, but with Odom on the floor he can't guard Kobe). If you watched the Spurs game, at least most of first half, you would have seen that Bowen wasn't on Carmelo, he was on AI until he got into foul trouble (AI went 0-4 in 1st qaurter, then 6-6 after Bowen was out/not guarding him).Of course superstars are going to score come playoff time, but it is totally unacceptable to let D-Wade score 40PPG through the last 4 games of the NBA Finals and basically single handedly beat you. T-Mac totally lit them up 2 years ago, and it just seems to be a reoccuring theme. When game is winding down, and game is slowed down where defense really shines, I feel all of the top tier teams outside of Miami have a guy that can keep the opposing superstar guard to reasonable standards. Dallas doesn't have this, and with the way things are shaping up, they will have to go through Davis, T-Mac, Nash, and one of the great swingmen from the East before winning a title.</div>That doesn't matter if the Mavs win. TMac lit them up...but the Mavs won that series.The Mavs, as a team, lost the Finals, not JUST because they let Wade go off...that's one time, one player went off, and the Mavs have lost.Name another Nitro...you can't.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ Apr 23 2007, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^Exactly mine, and most intelligent people on here, thoughts exactly.The Mavs would have never made the Finals last year if what Nitro was saying held any water.Hell if the Mavs had held on and won the Finals, I think he'd still be spewing the same crap...Maybe he just has something against the Mavs...but who knows.</div>The Mavs didn't have to go through the great guards that they will have to go through this year to get there. They had a Grizzlies team with no great perimeter scorers, a Spurs team who don't have what I would call a superstar guard, Nash didn't kill the Mavs but did push them to 6 games with no big men or healthy Raja, and then in the Finals they let a top tier swingman damn near single handedly beat them.If mavs win, then whatever I have to say is pointless. But up until now, they lost because of the problem I keep on repeating, and tonight it cost them once again.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That doesn't matter if the Mavs win. TMac lit them up...but the Mavs won that series.</div>Mmm, so just because they squeeked by because of a Houston chokejob makes it acceptable he lit them up? No. They will face better teams than that years Houston team, teams that are more experienced and well rounded.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Apr 23 2007, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree. Kobe was not "passing to make his team better"; he took 33 shots (10 more than his season average), and only got one assist. How was he passing to make his team better? And if you keep somebody to under 40 points on 33 shot attempts you're doing your job.</div>For one, we were talking about last years playoffs there, not this years. I didn't make the claim that he was passing today to make his teamates better. In that case, Kobe took 20 shots per game in last years playoff series against the Suns, down from his 27 shots per game that he took during the regular season while hitting at 49 percent, which was up from his 45 percent shooting he had in the regular season. So if he was taking the same amount of shots in last years playoffs, as he was in the regular season, his scoring would have been in the same area. He was passing inside alot to Brown and Odom in last years playoffs.As for tonights game, 11 of 17 shooting in one half, says it all. Come the second half he just got tired out from trying to do to much for his team. I maintain that was not as much great defense from the Suns, as Kobe Bryant just getting worn out over the course of the game.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Apr 23 2007, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As for tonights game, 11 of 17 shooting in one half, says it all. Come the second half he just got tired out from trying to do to much for his team. I maintain that was not as much great defense from the Suns, as Kobe Bryant just getting worn out over the course of the game.</div>So you're going to degrade the Suns' defense in first half, then not give them any credit whatsoever in 2nd half? Kobe was nailing extremely tough shots in the first half, and many of his 3's were pullups in transition that is a problem due to the Suns' pace. But when he cooled off a bit and game was slowed down, they were playing great D vs him and he cooled off. You got to give both sides credit for what they did in each half, but I thought Bell played very good defense (as he did in the season series, and last year in playoffs when he wasn't suspended).But again, Bell and Marion are two of the elite defenders in the game. I do not expect them to stop a superstar guard, or not have nights where they give up 40pts due to player getting hot from the perimeter. But throughout a series they will keep a guy within his regular season stats and not let them go off like the mavs have let people go off on them in the past. They do not have a great perimeter defender (Harris is good, but not at the level of Bell, Marion, Bowen, Hinrich, Billups/Hamilton, Battier, AK-47, etc..), and since they will likely have to go through a fantastic guard each series', I think it will be a much bigger problem than for those other teams.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Apr 23 2007, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Suns play a high octane offense so the stats are skewed, and with Kobe he hit some ridiculously tough shots in the first half. Last year when it was slowed down, Bell held Kobe in check. Whenever Marion is on Dirk he gives him a ton of trouble (same with Kobe, but with Odom on the floor he can't guard Kobe). If you watched the Spurs game, at least most of first half, you would have seen that Bowen wasn't on Carmelo, he was on AI until he got into foul trouble (AI went 0-4 in 1st qaurter, then 6-6 after Bowen was out/not guarding him).Of course superstars are going to score come playoff time, but it is totally unacceptable to let D-Wade score 40PPG through the last 4 games of the NBA Finals and basically single handedly beat you. T-Mac totally lit them up 2 years ago, and it just seems to be a reoccuring theme. When game is winding down, and game is slowed down where defense really shines, I feel all of the top tier teams outside of Miami have a guy that can keep the opposing superstar guard to reasonable standards. Dallas doesn't have this, and with the way things are shaping up, they will have to go through Davis, T-Mac, Nash, and one of the great swingmen from the East before winning a title.</div>I watched and most of the time when I was watching, Parker was on Iverson pretty much every time I looked, because Parker was the only one on the court that was quick enough to keep up with him and Bowen was usually on Anthony. As for last years playoffs, once again he didn't hold Kobe in check at all. Kobe was averaging 27 points per game on 49 percent shooting, but only taking 20 shots per game, compared to the 27 he took when it was regular season on 45 percent shooting. The fact was, that in last years playoffs the best option was to get it to Odom, who pretty much tore Marion up that series, and Brown on the inside.As for that claim that Marion gives Dirk problems, Marion guarded Dirk pretty much all series last year, and Dirk lead his team during that series to a win. He did that and played better than he did during the regular season last year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>For one, we were talking about last years playoffs there, not this years. I didn't make the claim that he was passing today to make his teamates better.</div>oh, I thought you were talking about today and today only, my bad.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Apr 23 2007, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I watched and most of the time when I was watching, Parker was on Iverson pretty much every time I looked, because Parker was the only one on the court that was quick enough to keep up with him and Bowen was usually on Anthony.</div>As I said, I didn't see all that much of the game, but what I did see was Bowen on iverson in 1st quarter.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As for last years playoffs, once again he didn't hold Kobe in check at all. Kobe was averaging 27 points per game on 49 percent shooting, but only taking 20 shots per game, compared to the 27 he took when it was regular season on 45 percent shooting. The fact was, that in last years playoffs the best option was to get it to Odom, who pretty much tore Marion up that series, and Brown on the inside.</div>He didn't play in game 6. It was more like 24PPG on around 44% shooting. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As for that claim that Marion gives Dirk problems, Marion guarded Dirk pretty much all series last year, and Dirk lead his team during that series to a win. He did that and played better than he did during the regular season last year.</div>False, Diaw was on Dirk most of the series. Check the playoffs 2 years ago or the 3rd game vs the Suns this year, he was ripping Diaw apart, and then they put Marion on him and he couldn't get much up (due to his length and athleticism, T-Mac gives him the same problems).
     
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    My bad, your right 24 points per game on 47 percent shooting on 18 shots per game, which is once again above what his usual shooting average, and way below his usual shots per game. Should he have been taking more shots per game, up to his normal 27 shots per game, that scoring average would have rose up to exactly what he was doing in the regular season. Once again, Bell didn't shut down Kobe Bryant, and he really didn't make things hard on Bryant. Bryant just knew going into the series, that the way for them to win was for him to get it to Odom and Brown more often. Should he have been attacking more, and trying to attack more, then he would have done the same thing to Bell that he did to everyone else.As for that series last year, now your just making stuff up, Marion was on Nowitzki pretty much the entire series. I watched the whole thing in my room in Korea, and Diaw only played Nowitzki in spots. For most of that series it was Marion guarding Nowitzki.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Apr 23 2007, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My bad, your right 24 points per game on 47 percent shooting on 18 shots per game, which is once again above what his usual shooting average, and way below his usual shots per game. Should he have been taking more shots per game, up to his normal 27 shots per game, that scoring average would have rose up to exactly what he was doing in the regular season. Once again, Bell didn't shut down Kobe Bryant, and he really didn't make things hard on Bryant. Bryant just knew going into the game, that the way for them to win was for him to get it to Odom and Brown more often.</div>Now let's go to what I said before:"But throughout a series they will keep a guy at or near his regular season stats"Bell did a fine job on Kobe, and remember the tempo of the game and that Kobe will get easier shots than in a slowed down game with Bell on him. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As for that series last year, now your just making stuff up, Marion was on Nowitzki pretty much the entire series. I watched the whole thing in my room in Korea, and Diaw only played Nowitzki in spots. For most of that series it was Marion guarding Nowitzki.</div>Ask any Suns fan who watched that series closely, they'll back me up. Marion did it 2 years back, and this season has done a very good job on him. He does give Dirk problems when he is on him, and is consistently talked about as a DPOY candidate. This goes back to my point that nearly all of the top tier teams have great perimeter defenders to keep these superstars within reasonable limit. I do not feel the same way about the Mavs perimeter defenders, and nothing they have done up until this point proves otherwise. As I said, this is their big weakness and if they want to win a title they have to do a better job.http://youtube.com/watch?v=4Vy0kI4SMvoThere ya go. Thomas and Diaw were on him 90% of the time. There were only 2 baskets that Dirk got that were with Marion on him, and one of them was a tip in. As I said, the best game to see how well marion plays him is game 3 of the season series this year in which Diaw was getting burned by Dirk, then when Marion was assigned to him he had a lot of trouble scoring.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Apr 23 2007, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Now let's go to what I said before:"But throughout a series they will keep a guy at or near his regular season stats"Bell did a fine job on Kobe, and remember the tempo of the game and that Kobe will get easier shots than in a slowed down game with Bell on him. Ask any Suns fan who watched that series closely, they'll back me up. Marion did it 2 years back, and this season has done a very good job on him. He does give Dirk problems when he is on him, and is consistently talked about as a DPOY candidate. This goes back to my point that nearly all of the top tier teams have great perimeter defenders to keep these superstars within reasonable limit. I do not feel the same way about the Mavs perimeter defenders, and nothing they have done up until this point proves otherwise. As I said, this is their big weakness and if they want to win a title they have to do a better job.</div>The Suns didn't keep him below his regular season average, Phil Jackson kept him below his regular season average. He could have gone off if he wanted to, and scored on Bell rather easily but there was an easier way to win. That easier way was to have Odom and Brown do more damage, when they needed him to score he was able to do it and do it rather easily. As for that last quote, the Suns don't keep anyone in check throughout a game. The best in the league, especially at the point guard spot, do whatever it is they want to against the Suns. Jason Terry, Gilbert Arenas, Jason Kidd, Tony Parker, all of these guys have put up some of their best games of the season on the Suns. Sam Cassell last year in the playoffs had his way against the Suns. The superstars are going to score, no matter who they are playing. That is the same with the Mavericks, Superstars are going to score on them, no matter what they do. So to ding the Mavericks for that, and then say the Suns are going to win it all is just ridiculous.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Apr 23 2007, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Suns didn't keep him below his regular season average, Phil Jackson kept him below his regular season average. He could have gone off if he wanted to, and scored on Bell rather easily but there was an easier way to win. That easier way was to have Odom and Brown do more damage, when they needed him to score he was able to do it and do it rather easily.</div>Bell played him fantastically. If he could just go off on him anytime he wants, he would have this year, yet Bell kept him below his averages (27PPG on 40% shooting). Last year Kobe's only easy baskets were in transition, or on lack of help off screens. But when Kobe and Bell were 1-on-1, Bell did as good of a job as anyone could have, forcing him into incredibly tough fadeaways and staying in front of him very well. Bell did a good job on Kobe that series, and even better job this year.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As for that last quote, the Suns don't keep anyone in check throughout a game. The best in the league, especially at the point guard spot, do whatever it is they want to against the Suns. Jason Terry, Gilbert Arenas, Jason Kidd, Tony Parker, all of these guys have put up some of their best games of the season on the Suns. Sam Cassell last year in the playoffs had his way against the Suns. The superstars are going to score, no matter who they are playing. That is the same with the Mavericks, Superstars are going to score on them, no matter what they do. So to ding the Mavericks for that, and then say the Suns are going to win it all is just ridiculous.</div>Again, a lot of this is due to the pace they play at, poor rotation on D, and nonfactors on D like Nash, Barbosa, Diaw, etc... But when game is slowed down at end of the 4th, they tend to do a very good job at making stops due to 2 very good perimeter defenders in Marion and Bell.Yes, the superstars are going to score no matter who they are playing. But there is a difference between keeping a superstar within reasonable limits and letting Dwyane Wade go for 40PPG on 52% shooting in the last 4 games of the Finals. That is 13PPG and 3% over his season averages, and while Dwyane Wade is a great scorer, it isn't like he is the kind of guy to knock down lucky fadeaway 3's like a Kobe. That is simply inexcusable.I never said the Suns will win it all for sure(although that is my pick, but any of the top 4 teams from the West and 1-2 teams from the East could realistically win it as well), but I much prefer their perimeter D on the superstars in close game situations when game is close over the Mavs perimeter defenders. The Suns pace and duds defensively overshadow the fact that they do have 2 great perimeter defenders in Bell and Marion.I'm done with this. My whole point is that if the Mavs play defense like they did tonight, in the Finals, or 2 years back against T-Mac and Nash, they will not make it to a ring. There are too many GREAT guards/SF in their way, and they will have to find a way to somewhat control them. Luckily for them they have a great help defense and are very feisty and full of energy, but they will need someone to step up on D.
     
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    The mavs have met their worst nightmare.... in the first round.sucks 4 them and their success this season.Baron Davis is in playoff mode right now... and on the hornets he was dangerous.Watch him!
     
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    Good job Warriors.This team ran all over us. They are very quick. And take every bit of advice Nellie gives them...shooting threes. As for the Mavs. We never really got in the grove. Our offense never clicked in any kind of consistent rhythm. I think Dampier should start. Adjusting your starting lineup to match the other teams starting line up doesn't necessarily mean it will work. Stick to what we have done in the past. Stack will find his rhythm. He always has his cold streak and stuff. But we know once he is shooting well, he can change a whole game. I believe Dirk will find his to.At least we have tell Wednesday tell the next game. Plenty of time for the players to figure there self's out
     
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    I am f*cking telling you guys, the Warriors will upset Dallas... The Mavs will have won 67 games all for f*cking nothing... You do NOT sweep a team in the regular season, just to be pushed aside like you're nothing... I don't give a sh*t what the teams' win/loss records were, or what seeding they are. The Warriors are going to move onto the 2nd round.
     

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