Game Thread GAME# 17: BLAZERS @ CAVALIERS - NOVEMBER 23, 2019 - SATURDAY, 5:00 PM, NBCSNW

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Darkwebs, Nov 21, 2019.

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If you could cut one player on our roster (removing their contract from our cap), who would it be?

Poll closed Nov 24, 2019.
  1. Carmelo Anthony

    2.2%
  2. Kent Bazemore

    11.1%
  3. Mario Hezonja

    22.2%
  4. Skal Labissiere

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. CJ McCollum

    11.1%
  6. Anthony Tolliver

    33.3%
  7. Gary Trent Jr.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Hassan Whiteside

    8.9%
  9. Other Blazer not listed

    6.7%
  10. Nobody. I like all the players on the current roster.

    4.4%
  1. Paine Tablet

    Paine Tablet Well-Known Member

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    I've no faith of winning, but of a better performance, an opportunity for growth, and a better outlook toward the future. Playing Anthony and Tolliver big minutes in spite of Skal and Nassir is no aim toward winning, no aim toward the future, and no aim to entertain us.
     
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  2. Blazers1977

    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah no difference makers lost. Just aminu our best defender and arguably most consistent scorer of like 6/7 playoff series. What a scrub.

    whiteside is not better than aminu
     
  3. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    This team has a million issies and you pin it on excuses alone.
     
  4. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

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    You realize that in all but the OKc series teams were begging Aminu to shoot right. So saying he shot well when not guarded, half the forum could do that... I liked seeing Aminu grow and he definitely got better as time went on, but he is basically an average at best role player, and is in Orlanda playing horribly, you can tout his defense all you want but his offense has been so bad its negated his defense.
     
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    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    ~8 injuries in your rotation is not an “excuse” it’s a fact of life.
     
  6. wizenheimer

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    Dame - back spasms - he played 37 minutes
    Hood - back spasms - he played 36 minutes
    Collins - surgery - Love was out
    Nurk - surgery - Henson was out
    Carmelo - 40 years old - Olshey could have signed somebody younger...and the Cavs played last night
    Tolliver - 40 years old - Olshey could have signed somebody younger & better...and the Cavs played last night
    Whiteside - hip problem - and where was the "incredibly talented" Hezonja?
    Skal - ankle injury - he played 18 minutes
    Ant - Ankle injury - he played 14 minutes tonight

    None of this is Stotts’ fault - bullshit. it's not all Stotts's fault, he didn't build the roster, but plenty of it is

    Phil Jackson would lose to the Cavs with this beaten-up roster - bullshit squared.

    Put away your damn pitchforks - you're confusing shovels with pitchforks
     
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  7. Blazers1977

    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    Sigh.

    he played elite defense and his offense was such a “liability” that he led our team in points and shooting % for many playoff series, but you’re still making Excuses how he “didn’t make an impact.” Absurd.

    Yes I’m sure you could lead the league in true shooting percentage in the nba playoffs. That sounds just great.
     
  8. TorturedBlazerFan

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    They suck. The only point I disagree with you on is the Phil Jackson one, every coach has bad losses, including Phil Jackson.

    They may be the worst team in the league right now, which is weird... I hope they pick it up, but the hope fading...
     
  9. TorturedBlazerFan

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    He also got benched because he couldnt guard anyone on Denver last year and was getting torched. Zach is better than him. Teams were literally not guarding him. The strategy was make him and Harkless shoot and make decisions. If he is so good, how come he’s playing so bad for his new team...
     
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    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    um, yes, players play basketball even with injuries. the more you know!

    yes the cavs were deleted and yes Carmelo and Tolliver aren’t helping much. Who else are we gonna sign?
     
  11. GhostOfPGA

    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    Fuck Melo and Tolliver, play Little and Trent over them. It’s not really complicated. There’s no reason bums who have no future in Portland get court time over young players.
     
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    The strategy was come off Aminu bc Dame is raw as fuck, and Aminu filled his role and shot great percentages when we needed him. They didn’t dare Aminu to shoot bc they wanted to, it’s bc they had to. his inability to play with Orlando doesn’t mean he wasn’t a good fit here with the team/roster he spent 6 seasons with.

    kicking a long time teammate while he’s down bc of one bad playoff series. Great stuff guy.
     
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    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    I’m not gonna lie though, if we continue down this road I’m afraid Dame will not want to be a part of yet another rebuild.
     
  14. TorturedBlazerFan

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    When Trent, and Little have gotten minutes they looked really good IMO, I have no idea why the leash is so short for them and other guys can repeatedly do some of the most head scratching garbage and keep getting minutes.
     
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    he had a PER of 9.2, a winhare/48 of .048 (9th on the team); and a box plus/minus of -2.8 (8th on the team). And as far as his supposed strength, defense, he was 8th on the team in defensive box plus/minus, and 13th in defensive rating. He isn't the reason Portland was 2-1

    sure, ridiculously small sample size, and I think he's better than those numbers. But too many people are talking like he was the 2nd best player on the team. But then, we've reached the any-excuse-in-the-storm phase of the season

    yes, roster turnover, injuries, and lots of road games are factors. But those aren't the only factors at work with this team
     
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    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    I’m sure Trent could get more than 11 points on 15 shots, and I’m sure as hell Little can play better on both sides of the court over Tolliver.

    Stotts is an absolute failure and slave to his garbage rotations.
     
  17. TorturedBlazerFan

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    Its just being realistic. He was an ok role player here, and thats about it. What do you want me to say he’s like a Draymond or Rodman level role player? Cause he wasnt. He was ok. I enjoyed his growth, I like that he learned to dribble and finish around the rim. His shoot was streaky. He was an ok role player. Not a difference maker. All those P/O series your touting his great stats they won what 3 of them...?
     
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    man, you’re gonna shit on Aminu and go to bat for Trent? TRENT??!!

    TRENT SUCKS! WTF lolol
     
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    Except who is a game changer on lottery picks? Doncic came 2 years too early
     
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    that's not why I called it bullshit. None of us have one goddamn clue how this game would have turned out in an alternate universe. It would be just as valid for me to say that Mark Helfrich could have coached the Blazers to a win tonight. Or John Belushi
     
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