Game #2 Chicago vs. Detroit

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  1. Mr. J

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    <div class="quote_poster">Ed! Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So you haven't found something better to do than bash the Bulls? All you've ever done is criticize what they are or what they do.</div>
    Trust me, I have better things to do than terrorize the Bulls forum. They just got blown out and you expect me to praise them?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Talk about insightful. Go back to the Knicks forum and speculate building a franchise around David Lee and Jamal Crawford.</div>
    How is that criticizing the Bulls? Me and many other people thought the reigning NBA champs would put up a better fight. I like a nice joke or two, but that one wasn't too funny. Try again.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">lol, and I suppose that post presence should be Eddy Curry (who they shouldn't have given up for just Tyrus Thomas). The Bulls had a good regular season record against the Pistons, so its not like they are out of their league. This is just a matter of execution and matching Detroit's intensity on their home court. The Bulls haven't been able to do that, but I'd wait until their home games before making such bold statements.</div>
    Nice job putting words in my mouth about the Curry thing. The Bulls offense is primarily a jump shooting one. Do you think it's a coincidene that everyone on the Bulls is struggling shooting against the Pistons? A post presence would have made their offense much more effective. The regular season record is totally different from the playoffs, especially for a team like the Pistons who are known to play well in the regular season but really step it up during the playoffs. Last season the Hawks swept the Spurs during the regular season. Yes, it will be interesting to see what Chicago does at home, but I still don't consider them on the level of a Detroit. I don't think that that's a bold a statement.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Blur:</div><div class="quote_post">A lose is a lose to be frank (in the playoffs anyway), it really doesn't matter how it happens, its not like losing in a close game will put us in any different a position than down 0-1. We lost to the Pistons in the Palace, congrats to them, they defended home court. Now let's go back to Chicago and get this series started.</div>
    What you said is true, but it's moot. My argument is that the Bulls haven't shown enough to warrant the "elite team" moniker they've been given. So far Chicago has been averaging 78 PPG and Detroit is averaging 101.5 PPG. That's a large discrepancy. It isn't a farfetched to conclude Chicago isn't on Detroit's level. Maybe a bit premautre since Chicago needs to play at home but as of now, based on what Chicago has shown in this series, I don't think they are an elite team.

    Even you said: "I am not even going to blame the refs, we just suck at this point."
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Nice job putting words in my mouth about the Curry thing. The Bulls offense is primarily a jump shooting one. Do you think it's a coincidene that everyone on the Bulls is struggling shooting against the Pistons? A post presence would have made their offense much more effective. The regular season record is totally different from the playoffs, especially for a team like the Pistons who are known to play well in the regular season but really step it up during the playoffs. Last season the Hawks swept the Spurs during the regular season. Yes, it will be interesting to see what Chicago does at home, but I still don't consider them on the level of a Detroit. I don't think that that's a bold a statement.</div>
    I was just joking about the Curry thing. Don't take that too seriously.

    But, really I don't think there's as big a gap between the two teams, as you described. Their regular season record wasn't the case of luck or catching the Pistons off guard (like ATL vs. SA a year ago), the way they won showed that they had the talent to match up well against Detroit. And, when you think about it, both teams are built pretty similarly. Labelling them "jumpshooting teams" is a gross understatement IMO. While neither team has a strong post presence, they are extremely athletic and use a mix of penetration and fast-break basketball to find open shooters. Those first two losses were definitely blowouts, but they were more a result of bad execution and mental lapses on the Bulls part, rather than fundamental problems with the roster. I still think we should wait until their home games to make such bold statements.
     
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    Dont worry MrJ we just might get a post player in the draft. Then you will really Hate the bulls. Its funny how Every post you have critisizes the bulls. while your Knicks are playing PuttPutt Golf right now. BTW thanks for the pick!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I was just joking about the Curry thing. Don't take that too seriously.

    But, really I don't think there's as big a gap between the two teams, as you described. Their regular season record wasn't the case of luck or catching the Pistons off guard (like ATL vs. SA a year ago), the way they won showed that they had the talent to match up well against Detroit. And, when you think about it, both teams are built pretty similarly. Labelling them "jumpshooting teams" is a gross understatement IMO. While neither team has a strong post presence, they are extremely athletic and use a mix of penetration and fast-break basketball to find open shooters. Those first two losses were definitely blowouts, but they were more a result of bad execution and mental lapses on the Bulls part, rather than fundamental problems with the roster. I still think we should wait until their home games to make such bold statements.</div>
    I appologize for coming off like that. I've been having a crappy day today.

    Regardless, regular season games are still very different from postseason games. The Hawks/Spurs example was just one off the top of my head but there have been many circumstances where one team has dominated in the regular season and lost in the series. Another overlooked aspect of being an elite team is having experience, something Chicago has little of. Detroit has been a championship contender for five straight years now so they clearly have the upper hand in that department. Their lack of execution and mental lapses is a direct result of their inexperience in the playoffs. Chicago?s offense is solid, but you have to note that Detroit has effectively stopped them. All of their shooters have been held under 40%. Since Detroit is one of the best defensive teams in the league and can match up well with Chicago, they will have a harder time penetrating and creating open looks on the perimeter. A post presence will give them another option to defer to when their shooters are struggling. If they don?t have the sufficient scoring, then their already good defense will have to become great. But you?re right. This was a bit premature. Still, based on what I?ve seen, Chicago is not at the level of a championship contender.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Dont worry MrJ we just might get a post player in the draft. Then you will really Hate the bulls. Its funny how Every post you have critisizes the bulls. while your Knicks are playing PuttPutt Golf right now. BTW thanks for the pick!!!</div>
    Please try to perfect your grammar before you try to play me. [​IMG]
     

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