<div class="quote_poster">CohanHater Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Don't forget that the Warriors have consistently struggled on the road all year. Utah is tough at home, now we're coming home. If we hold home court, the pressure is back on them. Let's see what happens on Friday.</div> Also don't forget that Utah sucks on the road in the playoffs: 74-30 at home 25-72 on the road We get the next two, take game 5 in Utah, then complete the 4-game sweep in game 6 back home
<div class="quote_poster">Wild Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">We get the next two, take game 5 in Utah, then complete the 4-game sweep in game 6 back home </div> It's happenin'
What a depressing loss. We really should have won that, the refs were pretty bad again but we've dealed with that for a large portion of the year. Ultimately we lost the game with missed FTs and just stupid mistakes and the Jazz didn't screw up easy opportunities. I'm hoping we completely blow them out in Oakland. They're a horrible road team and we should have won both of those games in Utah.
Golden State had 32 rebounds to Utah's reboundingplayoff record of 60. I think the Warriors are lucky for being so close.
<div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Golden State had 32 rebounds to Utah's reboundingplayoff record of 60. I think the Warriors are lucky for being so close.</div> I think so too. But the Warriors are just so unlucky to have so many poor free throw shooters and weak mental game down the stretch. Star players like bdiddy aren't supposed to miss when it counts... but Baron for the most part knocked down all the free throw shots he was supposed to hit but one got away that shouldn't have even mattered if Pietrus had hit just one of them. Jrich was bad earlier for missing two and then not capping the 3-point play foul, but Pietrus is in a contract year. Pietrus should be performing a lot better if he wants to be made. What I would give for Reggie Miller right now to suit up for the Warriors...
Yeah I wouldn't mind if Reggied suited up because he sucks as a commentator. So does Dick Stockton, where is Tom Tolbert or Bill Walton when you need them?? Tickets go on sale today at 2pm on ticketmaster
<div class="quote_poster">iLL PiLL Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah I wouldn't mind if Reggied suited up because he sucks as a commentator. So does Dick Stockton, where is Tom Tolbert or Bill Walton when you need them?? Tickets go on sale today at 2pm on ticketmaster</div> Dick Stockton is killin me, dude. I'm sorry but it's time for him to retire, man
<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm hoping we completely blow them out in Oakland. They're a horrible road team and we should have won both of those games in Utah.</div> Let's not forget that Utah is just coming out of a series where they won a game 7 against Houston on the ROAD. I'm not expecting 2 victories for Utah at all, but I would be very surprised if they get blown out. I'm hoping they can take one. And about Fisher... Have some f**king sympathy. The man missed Game 1, and just flew across the country after his daughter had a life threatening surgery, and he has the mental strength to still come and play for Utah. Not only that, but he assisted Boozer on an OT layup, nailed a closing 3 pter, and hit 2 free throws. It was remarkable that he even showed up and played, let alone contributed on a clutch shot. He wasn't even warmed up. I've watched Fisher play a lot more this season than you have, and I can tell you that he is an experienced guard that has contributed to our success heavily. He might have been a "liability" on your team, but not on the Jazz. DWill runs the show here. Regardless, that was the most exciting and dramaful game I've seen all season. And BTW: Walton is the worst commentator in NBA history.
Derek Fisher's daughter had a tumor in the middle of her eye and brain. She had to have immediate surgery on it. Back to the Oracle, Warriors need to take care of business at home, and then carry a two game win streak and momentum back into Utah. The Warriors are counting on forcing turnovers to compete, they really need to focus on doing a better job of rebounding. They also have to keep Utah off the free throw line. 33 attempts is far too, many because Utah shoots well as a team from the line. Biedrins 6 rebounds in 33 minutes is not going to get it done.
Dee Brown: Apparently OK May 10, 2007 10:45 AM Michael C. Lewis and Ross Siler of the Salt Lake Tribine say Brown -- who looked to be playing very well before his injury -- is out of the hospital and apparently OK: He was taken to a local hospital where neurological tests and X-rays were normal, the Jazz said. Brown was expected to be released from the hospital before midnight, senior vice president of basketball operations Kevin O'Connor said. In case you missed it, Dee Brown -- who was not expected to play much, if at all -- came into the game to replace an absent Derek Fisher and a foul-plagued Deron Williams. After a few minutes of plucky play, he fell to the court (as he was called for a foul) where, in a moment that was awful to see, his spine was bent to an unnatural angle by Brown's large, falling teammate, Mehmet Okur. After lying on the floor clearly in agony, he hobbled off the court with help, looking to me like he was a risk to collapse at any moment. He was later strapped to a stretcher in a seated position, and taken away. Source
<div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And about Fisher... Have some f**king sympathy. The man missed Game 1, and just flew across the country after his daughter had a life threatening surgery, and he has the mental strength to still come and play for Utah.</div> Who's being unsympathetic? Our hearts go out to the guy and his family -- but we're talking basketball, here, and 1) Us GS fans have a history of being VERY frustrated with DFish's play. I'm sure I can speak for the majority when I say we are STOKED he's not a Warrior any longer. 2)It's a great story he made it to the game (and hopefully his daughter is okay) but the fans and announcers were acting like Superman just arrived to save the day. Trust me, as a GS fan I was thrilled when DFish came in the game. I'd rather he play than an injured Dee Brown. Crap, AK-47 is a better point guard than Fish I feel for Derek Fisher and his family, but as far as basketball goes, being a Warriors fan, I hope Fish plays 48 minutes tomorrow night
Good to hear Dee Brown is okay and I wish DFish's daughter a speedy recovery. The way Damon Bruce was describing it on KNBR after the game, it sounded like Dee Brown wasn't getting the proper medical treatment, and could have been injured further. He was advocating suing over it. I just saw a film clip of Brown strapped in the stretcher afterwards, so dunno. On other matters, what about Monta? Is he just going to have limited minutes? Also, was there any difference in the Warriors' play between game one and game two? I just saw bits and pieces of both games as I had to run errands, but it looks the same to me. The Warriors are competitive, but the Jazz' rebounding and outside/inside play eventually grind the Warriors down. Sure, we could've won BOTH games if we made more FREE THROWS, ~75%, but Nelson says we're a poor free throw shooting team. We also cannot match up in REBOUNDING, and it sounds like Nellie isn't going to change up his roster to counter. I don't get that at all. EDIT: Will be interesting to see DFish play and take a look at the 5 on 4 theory in action
And you can have your opinion. But I'm not talking about his days in Golden State, or even this season with the Jazz. I'm talking about what he went through last night, and how he was able to still come play, and play well. Last night was a remarkable game and performance by Fish, and by everyone, and that's what I was responding to. "boogielew" was saying that all he did was turn it over, and that his performance was by no means good. ( http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-f...=yhoo&type=lgns ) And great news about Dee. BTW: I don't want to start an arguement, but I just want some Warrior fans opinions. Do you all think Monta Ellis deserved MIP award more than DWill?
DFish's story is a great human interest story. As a father of two young ones, I have all the sympathy for him and more importantly for his daughter, that brings me to tears. Did I want him to have a great game and put on a pedestal? No. And making a big deal about him coming back is not heroic, the heroism is his daughter and her battle. Basketball, even playoff basketball, means crap relative to his daughter beating cancer. As for the game, the rebounding is frustrating but watching it I realized that we have to simply accept that as a byproduct of playing the players that give the Warriors the best chance of winning. Kirilenko, Boozer, Okur and Millsap are big dudes and at times big guys just get more rebounds. Even with that, the Warriors played great offensively and simply should have won. Stepping out of bounds? Pietrus' scared stiff FT shooting? Baron's missed FT? Those are things that simply should not happen. Oh well, its better than having the 9th Lottery pick. Utah has not been a good road team and W's beat them both times here. Go Warriors!!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">BTW: I don't want to start an arguement, but I just want some Warrior fans opinions. Do you all think Monta Ellis deserved MIP award more than DWill?</div> DWill deserves it more. He's really impressed me so far in the playoffs and the few games I saw in the regular season. He's shown a lot of leadership and has a better overall game than Monta, in terms of passing and dribbling and three point shooting and being more clutch. And I never really thought much of him his rookie year. I thought he was just a three point chucker. So he's clearly improved and gotten better. And I think Monta's improvement is because of more minutes. And one of the reasons he got it was because of his highlight reel moves. But clearly, Monta has not shown what he can really do in the playoffs and I don't think that's a good indication of how good Monta really is. I'm not sure why he's played so poorly.
<div class="quote_poster">philsmith75 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">DFish's story is a great human interest story. As a father of two young ones, I have all the sympathy for him and more importantly for his daughter, that brings me to tears. Did I want him to have a great game and put on a pedestal? No. And making a big deal about him coming back is not heroic, the heroism is his daughter and her battle. Basketball, even playoff basketball, means crap relative to his daughter beating cancer. As for the game, the rebounding is frustrating but watching it I realized that we have to simply accept that as a byproduct of playing the players that give the Warriors the best chance of winning. Kirilenko, Boozer, Okur and Millsap are big dudes and at times big guys just get more rebounds. Even with that, the Warriors played great offensively and simply should have won. Stepping out of bounds? Pietrus' scared stiff FT shooting? Baron's missed FT? Those are things that simply should not happen. Oh well, its better than having the 9th Lottery pick. Utah has not been a good road team and W's beat them both times here. Go Warriors!!!</div> The heavy rebounding edge Utah has is also the product of playing zone defense. The Warriors starters haven't played enough game together to account for one another in the zone defense. The classic example is the Pistons in their zone. They only adopted it when Flip Saunders took over, and they perfected it right away because the 5 starters are familiar with one another, and their rotations are second nature from the experience together. The Warriors might be undersized, but they can make up for it with the athleticism and quickness to the ball. All the starters and most of the bench players can cover a lot of ground in a hurry, it's just a matter of playing long enough to build the chemistry and trust. You can be a lot more aggressive defending off your man or area of a zone, when you trust your teammate has your backside covered.
<div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> BTW: I don't want to start an arguement, but I just want some Warrior fans opinions. Do you all think Monta Ellis deserved MIP award more than DWill?</div> ellis upped his ppg by 10, williams by 6. ellis upped his spg by 1.1, williams by 0.2. ellis upped his rpg by 1.1, williams upped his by 0.9. ellis upped his fg% by 6%, williams by 3.5%. plus, deron started 47 games for you guys in 05-06, monta only started 3 for us. maybe it's fan bias, but yeah, i think ellis showed a greater improvement....that's not taking away anything from williams, cuz he's already wayyy better than i ever thought he'd be in the nba. he's gonna be a great point guard in the near future, but (aside from the playoffs) ellis really stepped it up this year.
<div class="quote_poster">707to805 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">ellis upped his ppg by 10, williams by 6. ellis upped his spg by 1.1, williams by 0.2. ellis upped his rpg by 1.1, williams upped his by 0.9. ellis upped his fg% by 6%, williams by 3.5%. plus, deron started 47 games for you guys in 05-06, monta only started 3 for us. maybe it's fan bias, but yeah, i think ellis showed a greater improvement....that's not taking away anything from williams, cuz he's already wayyy better than i ever thought he'd be in the nba. he's gonna be a great point guard in the near future, but (aside from the playoffs) ellis really stepped it up this year.</div> Actually, Williams had a greater increase in PER (you forgot that the Warriors play at a pretty fast pace).
