Game Thread GAME# 23: PELICANS @ BLAZERS - DECEMBER 2, 2017 - SATURDAY, 7:00 (PST), NBCSNW

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Whom would you rather have on the Blazers, considering age, contract status, fit, etc.?

Poll closed Dec 7, 2017.
  1. Nurkic (15.0 points, 7.7 rebounds, 1.2 blocks, 15.07 PER)

    48.8%
  2. Cousins (25.1 points, 12.5 rebounds, 1.6 blocks, 22.95 PER)

    51.2%
  1. ripcityboy

    ripcityboy Well-Known Member

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    Well, Stotts will eventually take the fall. Dame's loyalty doesn't buy everything. But that will only happen when enough time has passed and the rot of mediocrity has set in. Olshey will eventually need a sacrificial lamb to give to the owner and the press.... and that will most likely be Stotts. But I think that still buys him the rest of the year. If it's another first round playoff exit, then they "will go in another direction."
     
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    we should trade you to another forum, Portlands or not... Im fucking around with Strenuus, but man, you really dont like Nurk
    every single time you have something to say about him, every fucking single time

    whats your problem, seriously...
     
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    maybe, I dont know... theres just a lot of things I see that I dont like, you would never see those things in europe
    for example, your team is losing and you are dancing, smilling at timeouts... I dont get, I would be fucked up like I always am when my teams are losing

    fans booed Leonard and POR fans dont approve it, well, you should come to europe then, boos are piece of cake

    all that show at timeouts and half time, its like circus or whatever, I dont get it and I hate it... you bring dogs to the court, I mean, what the fuck, whats wrong with these people... I know its all show for you Americans, but I cant understand it
     
  4. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    This. Thank you. What baffles me is that, on the offensive side of the ball, the entire team just runs down the court....except for one or two people, either Nurk or Davis......without even TRYING to get into position to get a rebound. Nobody hustles after it. And it's been like this now for a couple of years.

    That's on Stotts. And you can't tell me it's not.....it's pretty glaringly obvious when it happens, and it makes you scratch your head in dismay.

    And this too. Unless we're getting Curry or LeBron in return, then Dame isn't going anywhere. Say what you will about him; the facts of the matter is that he's a top 4 or 5 PG in this league. You can't just replace that with anyone.

    Stotts is going to be the one to go first. As it should be. And if Dame has a problem about that, then tough shit. This is a business, and he needs to get that through his head.
     
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    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    This made me lol. I honestly don’t think most people gave a shit for the dogs but they kinda always have to have something for halftime so that’s just what they decided. The guys that dunk off the trampolines are also lame.
     
  6. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    The part where Brooke interviews the players by asking them questions while they're wearing headphones is fucking hilarious. They need to do more of that.
     
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    on the other hand, I like what players from NBA are doing for community, theres no such thing in europe (not that I know of when it comes to basketball, in football I saw things like that... but then again, I dont really follow european basketball... only Adriatic league which feature temas from Ex-Yu)

    I dont know if thats their personal decision, or franchise sends them, but I think it goes both ways

    and I noticed one other thing, when fans gets prizes at timeouts, playing "games" on the court or stands, etc, I think POR is by far the worst on that part

    bad prizes, anyway, Ive seen much better at other franchises...
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    I agree. It all seems a bit "cheap" to me.

    But hey.....Paul Allen pays the dancers $50 a night. So what do you expect?
     
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    and POR should have a girl running that thing, not a guy... good god, I dont get it
     
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    Are Chilean prostitutes known for their excellence in fellatio?

    This isn't all on Stotts. Why does Neil get a pass from so many fans
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Oh trust me, I'm not giving him a pass. But he's not the one out there night after night calling up bad plays, not calling proper timeouts, and failing to lead the team on the sidelines.

    Olshey definitely has a part to play for terrible contracts. Not to mention not making any moves in FA.

    But terrible contracts are not why we lost last night, or why we're choking away leads. That's on Stotts.
     
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    Still fuming about this loss
     
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    I could argue terrible contracts is a big reason.
     
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    Neil gets great PR. And he either freezes out reporters who don't give him that or fires the Blazer media reps who don't eat out of his hand.
     
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    We are losing games that we SHOULD be winning. At some point, a piece of paper isn't the reason for that. You have to look at the coach.

    Olshey did a good job assembling a team after 4 of our 5 starters hit the bricks. It was, from what I gathered, supposed to be a temporary team. The problem, however, is that it became a permanent lineup, instead of adding better pieces and quality players through the draft and FA.

    So yes, Olshey has a part to play in that. But ultimately, he's not the reason why we're losing games that we should win. And if you doubt that, then just take a look at Stott's body language during games and press conferences. He knows he's lost, and he knows that he's given up. The man doesn't even bother trying to call a proper time out, for fuck's sake.

    That's not on Olshey. That's on Stotts.
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    I'll add this....if we were bad as a result of bad contracts rather than bad coaching, then we'd look like the Knicks.
     
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    Why SHOULD we win these games?
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Because, as cringy as this lineup is at times, there ARE winnable games that we can win with this crew. Like against a Davis-less Pelicans, for example.
     
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    Falcon, Stotts is a system coach. He's not a coach who will give you a certain amount of wins over the ability of a group of players. That's why he's always making players fill roles whether they can or not But Olshey couldn't give him the players he needs anyway because Portland doesn't exist in a market that allows quick player turnover. We are always looking for the replacement of a player who has either left or is going to leave. Stotts is overmatched, but I honestly don't know if another coach would be able to squeeze more wins out of this team.
     
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    yep, is a joint effort, roster sucks for the payroll we have and it's difficult to trade because of so many bad contracts
     
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