Game Thread GAME# 23: PELICANS @ BLAZERS - DECEMBER 2, 2017 - SATURDAY, 7:00 (PST), NBCSNW

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Darkwebs, Nov 30, 2017.

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Whom would you rather have on the Blazers, considering age, contract status, fit, etc.?

Poll closed Dec 7, 2017.
  1. Nurkic (15.0 points, 7.7 rebounds, 1.2 blocks, 15.07 PER)

    48.8%
  2. Cousins (25.1 points, 12.5 rebounds, 1.6 blocks, 22.95 PER)

    51.2%
  1. Sinobas

    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

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    I must be more European then, because I like to see intensity as well. I hate athletes that think they're doing everyone who paid hundreds to watch them play a favor for being able to witness them lolly-gag around the court.

    Of course, not every team can be good, you have to have your bad/mediocre teams. But even those teams can be fun to watch if they play hard and have "upside", but this Blazers team doesn't really seem to have much upside.
     
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  2. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    And to that, I can't speak. I don't follow any other teams around the league, and I don't watch college basketball. I couldn't tell you who was the homeless man behind a dumpster at Safeway, and who is the head coach of Purdue.

    So I can't say that anyone else would give us a better chance. But I do know what my eyes are telling me: that this team is not getting proper leadership from Stotts. It's basic things: poor screens, players out of positions, having the whole team on the other side of the court instead of picking up offensive rebounds, not adjusting to bad switches and mismatches, and absolutely no concept of what a time out is. Not to mention the seemingly non-existent changes at half time.

    I HAVE to believe that there's another coach in this league who could do better. And if we cleaned up even half of those problems, I could easily see us being a 4th or 5th seed team, and possibly even the 2nd round.

    But as of right now, if we win 40 games, I'll be surprised.
     
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    Unfortunately you have to blow it up. New direction all together. Honestly since LMA left I haven’t had a good feeling with the way this was being built.

    I would wait till the all star break just to be extra sure and if we continue on this pace just start trading dame and Cj for lottery picks.

    This team is trash and is wasting our time. I’d rather build it right and go the route philly did
     
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    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

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    Exactly this. I believe this team was indeed meant to be a hold over till the planned jackpot we were supposedly going to hit in FA + some high lotto picks.

    But it seems that after the feel good season and the feel good playoff performance where we beat the Clippers bench in the 1st round, he over-estimated how good this group was.

    So far he's been a good drafter though, just terrible in FA. He still has a chance to redeem himself...but where these bad contracts will come back to bite us is if we have to let our more productive role players go because we're paying 38 million per year to Myan Turnerless.

    If I were Neil, I'd be looking to deal CJ.
     
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    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

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    I think Napier is a poor man's CJ. Honestly, the dropoff if he were to start next to Lillard wouldn't be that great. That's why I think we should trade CJ. Maybe for Butler, or Gordon/Vucevic.
     
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    I still see why Neil signed the players he had. Because the money was available in a cap window and there wouldn't be a surplus for a few more years. What was he supposed to do? Lose the few contracted players he had and maybe piss off his best players by not signing them to deserved extensions. Dame made sure he and all his guys got paid. The roster they had was the best they could do at the time. But somebody still has to explain to me who the prototype low risk free agent alternative to overpaying Evan Turner is? He only signed with us when we flashed the cash. Do we wait for free agency to be over in the hope that there might be some oft-injured center whose recovering from a ruptured Achillies or an alcoholic guard who's one DUI from being drummed out of the league? Yes our bad contracts are shitty, but so are the player acquisitions methods in a system that only works for a few teams. This has to change. And I think it will. One day, Silver will say, "Fuck the NCAA. Fuck the draft lottery. We are going to find the best way and most effective way to insure all our teams have trained professional ball players in the best possible system for success."
     
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    I was almost gonna like it; just for the raw anger there.
     
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    BrunoSOC Ripcity from Brazil

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    Same as me. We need in my opinion a true SF scorer
     
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    BrunoSOC Ripcity from Brazil

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    My mood goes up and down with our W or L. This one really hurts me.
     
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    Ed and Noah were ballin on both sides of the court.

    Ed played 8 minutes.
    Noah played 13 minutes.

    Why???
     
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    And why even play Harkless 5m? If you're going to give him so few minutes, just give him a DNP. Fucking stupid.
     
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    I only saw some highlights of the game but Cousins was eating Ed alive in the post...Ed couldn't stop him..and Meyers got 17 2 3 in 16 minutes...7 of 9 shooting...2 for 2 from deep...Meyers was a better matchup at that point I'm guessing....Cousins is tough for Ed....
     
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    We’re fine.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    You can change your username to Pessimistic Bob and be the official board mascot.

    BNM
     
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    Spud147 Mercy Mercy

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    Funny I watched most of the game and didn't see any highlights for the Blazers... ugh! :angry:
     
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    Leonard was productive for them, I don't think Ed or Noah would have changed the tide of that game. Pelicans shot over 50% from 3, and Stotts, again, allowed another team's star to flourish without giving him any extra attention defensively.
     
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    Last year we have a poor December month, our biggest win streak was 3 and after that we lost more than won for a while.

    The point is we can avoid to have a 5 game losing streak if we win against wizards. Next games are rockets and GSW, count as L, even I believe we have a with little miracle chance to beat the rockets at home, for this happen we need to beat the wizards.
     
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