Game 26 Kraken vs. Rangers

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  1. Ranger71

    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    Igor's $$ shouldn't hurt too much, as the cap will go up along with it, but it's Zib and maybe even Fox contract which will anchor them a bit. Panarin will be gone after next year, and i think Kreider will only have a year or two left after that. Both could be shipped out at next seasons trade DL. Probably 2-3y in the lottery ahead.
     
  2. NYR_94

    NYR_94 Well-Known Member

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    Outside of Zibanejad, I don't think the Rangers really have any bad contracts left.

    Panarin is up after next season, and his production in the regular season is top notch, so he really isn't overpaid.
    Kreider is up after two more seasons, and at $6.5M, his cap hit is reasonable for his production.
    The decision needs to be made on Fox before his NMC goes into effect after the season. Being fair though, for his production and performance, $9.5M is not a crazy cap hit.
    And while I would have said $11M tops for Igor, giving one of the best goalies in the NHL $11.5M isn't horrific, at least he is top notch at his position. Plus, the cap will continue to rise.

    If you look at it fairly, with Goodrow and Trouba gone, the really awful contracts are gone outside of Zibanejad, which you are kind of stuck with and hope he wakes up eventually.

    The big questions to me are:

    What is your decision on Fox. Once he stays into the summer he is here.
    What is your decision on Miller, who is an RFA with arbitration rights this summer. This has the potential to be the Rangers next bad contract if Drury goes nuts.

    I continue to say, make a choice between the two, and keep one, the other needs to go. Either way, both have value in a trade I believe. Drury should make that decision, and unless he is okay paying Miller well, he should get traded this season IMO.
     
  3. Ranger71

    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    Right, I wasn't saying Panarin/CK were overpaid just mentioning them as possibly bringing back assets in the near future. I didn't think we'd be talking about Fox so quickly into his contract but here we are.
     
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  4. PorterPanzer

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    It's a crime that Mancini hasn't been playing Lav is the conductor of this shit orchestra and continues to work Fox like a rented mule - 25+ minutes for a -2 with 2 assists Adam is hands down the weakest dman in the NHL, the offense is great but whatever Fox does offensively he hands back defensively especially postseason With Igor and Laf's extensions $11 mil will be added to next year's payroll. Drury needs to stop and ask directions - he's lost
     
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  5. Rangers94

    Rangers94 Well-Known Member

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    And for $11.5M Igor needs to start 75+ games. Sorry. Tired? Too bad. Man the fuck up. For that amount of money you can rest in the offseason and when you retire.
     
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    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    They need to upgrade a defensive partner for Fox. He also needs to spend some time on improving his conditioning and skating. And Housley sucks as a defense coach. All defenseman have regressed under him.
     
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    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    If you look at Fox defensive stats, it’s one of the best on the team.
     
  8. PorterPanzer

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    Schneider is clearly better defensively than Fox, what stat are you referring to?
     
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    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

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    Wondering the same thing. Fox is on for an awful lot of opposition goals and constantly turning it over. if I'm duty I'm trading him for a haul
     
  10. PorterPanzer

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    I agree Mel, Drury is dooty Tonight is a typical Fox night 2 assists but on ice for 4 Kraken goals including getting beat to the open netter Money is going to be tight next year with the RFAs, trade Fox Dooty!
     
  11. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    There will be several more moves.
     
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    There has to be, and I think Drury will move reasonably quickly, especially after yesterday's mess.

    I stand by my comments, there will be 3 new dmen on this team next season. Trouba gone, Lindgren is up soon, Miller or Fox (keep only one).

    As much as I cannot stand Drury in his roles, and think he is in way over his head, I have to be fair, the guy does deserve credit. He got rid of two terrible contracts, Goodrow and Trouba, and didn't retain $1, or have to give up assets, that is impressive. BUT it's what he does next that will truly define whether or not he is able to handle the role and get this team turned around quickly.

    His next move/moves will tell everything, while acknowledging he did a really good job fully getting rid of two terrible contracts.
     
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    I'd totally give Drury credit if the two guys traded had been willing participants, Aaron Ward said it best - guys like Goodrow ant Trouba reached points in their NHL careers to earn the money and NTC in their contracts, Drury shitting on that will definitely have influence on the decision of future FAs signing in NY. I agree there will be moves the sooner the better, getting late in the season to be changing on the fly.
     
  14. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    I don't care. I don't like signing free agents. They rarely work out. I've said for years. Organization should have a policy. No more NTC and NMC's. Shesterkin just got a NMC his entire contract. Don't like it. Should have at least had a limited NTC the last 3 years. Personally, I stick by what I said. I wouldn't hand out any of those clauses.
     
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    I agree, and it's something I knock Drury for, in addition to many other things, his communication skills are clearly sh*t., you saw it in both cases. It's part of why Drury is in over his head and sucks at his job(s). While Drury should have done better communicating, at days end he had to make these moves though, whether he got Goodrow and Trouba on board or not, they had to be made for the better of the team.

    And BTW, Ward's comments are one-sided from a player's POV, because last I checked just like Goodrow and Trouba "earned" their contracts and clauses, Drury also has the right to play by the rules of those contracts, which he did 10000000000%. If they didn't want that risk, both should have negotiated contracts with full NMC's, not limited NTC's. So, Ward is not being fair and is telling only one side of the story.

    As for future FA's, I don't worry about that. Money will talk just like it always does, as will playing in NYC, as will playing for an Original 6 franchise. If a certain player says I won't play there because of how Drury abided by the rules of Trouba's/Goodrow's contract to move them, so be it, that's not a player I'd want anyway.

    As for clauses, say whatever you want, they are a reality of the modern NHL. Igor got a clause, Lafreniere got a clause, Fox got a clause, on and on. If you want it to stop, the NHL GM's as a whole need to stop it. One team doing it will only cost that team players when they sign elsewhere for a clause that makes them feel more secure and gives them more control/say in where they'll be long term.
     
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  16. PorterPanzer

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    Of course Ward's speaking from the player's perspective but he's far from a lone voice, many current players are noy happy with the way Drury handles things. Drury didn't break any rules but he does have the player's association looking into amending the process so players don't end up going to teams on their no trade list.
     
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