Game Thread GAME# 32: BLAZERS @ LAKERS - FEBRUARY 26, 2021 - FRIDAY, 7:00, ESPN & NBCSNW

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Which team in the NBA do you dislike the most?

Poll closed Mar 2, 2021.
  1. Lakers

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  2. Some other team

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  1. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    I know. You still wish they were the NJ Nets. haha
     
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    Well only Stotts not adjusting neither is Dame adjusting. Dame was looking for his shot all night long for that reason nobody is in the flow of the game. All seen last night was one man dribbling the basketball and trying to get shot up and not just Dame you got Hood and Melo and Trent and Simons there know flow to the offense I blamed that on the head coach. There playing pickup ball at the YMCA. Now defense they don't rebound the Lakers 14 offense rebounds and most of them was put back and in and there no interior defense at all I got admitted the 3 point defense is getting better but now every team scoring big time in the paint. Now our guards can't guard a lick Dame and Trent neither could stay in front of there man last night. Someone mentioned Kanter that he don't pickup hardly any and Zach would have foul out. Let me give you clue Kanter don't contest anything out there around the rim and Zach would try to contest everything by the rim but you don't realize Zach picks up fouls and sometimes stupid fouls but he hardly fouls out. I am sorry this when they won those 6 straight games they played has a team right now it's jugguar fuck on both ends.
     
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    This clown show thinks getting another 7 footer on the court won't help.
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    Well at least he has his basketball shoes on.
     
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    The guy plays hard sometimes you need to take the stats throwing them out the window.
     
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    You know I see we got guys only 6'7 and only one 7 footer. Here my thoughts about majority of the players can dunk in this league so that's mean everyone can at least touch the rim. But here's two things you must have to be a decent rebounder one you must put a body on someone by blocking him out and two you must want it more then the other guy. I see Kanter rebounding but majority of the time I don't see covington or Jones big rebounding stats up on nightly basis and Trent is terrible rebounder for a 2 guard and last it's team effort to collect the defense rebounds. Giving up 14 offense rebounds and 1 was off a damn free throw is not a good look for this team.
     
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  7. PCmor7

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    Put Caruso on any average team and does anyone even know who he is? If he doesn't play in LA, does anyone know who Caruso is? TBH, I think Pat Connaughton is better. Either way, both players are easily replaceable. He fills a very limited role on a very good team, but for gosh sakes he's not underrated. He's a guy. Put him in the right situation, he'll be OK. Put him on the Thunder and he's bouncing around the league and playing 8 years in China.
     
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    Re: The traps

    We keep blaming Stotts, and certainly he has to shoulder a lot of that, but, as someone mentioned above, Dame bears responsibility, too.

    Really, a top ballhandler sees a trap coming, he beats it before it gets there with the dribble or he passes to a teammate and they either play 4 on 3 or he relocates and gets the ball back and makes something happen while the defense is scrambling. Waiting for 2 long guys to catch you between the sideline and halfcourt and trying to play Superman is prideful and not smart. Do you think Chris Paul would let that happen? Dame's a better player than Chris Paul, and that's saying something because Chris Paul's record of work speaks for itself. But Chris Paul plays smarter than Dame in the way he lets the game come to him. He doesn't need the ball in his hands all the time. He doesn't need to make flashy passes. He doesn't have to make highlight plays on every pick and roll. He only does what he has to do to get his team a good shot. It's a big part of why he's survived this long.

    Dame's great, but the issue with the traps is something he should have learned to deal with by now.
     
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    Still might end up there. But you have to admit he does bring energy and works hard every night.
     
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    I agree with this take as well.
    Dame needs to set up faster and move the ball a bit quicker. I was thinking on multiple possessions last night he could push up the court quicker and get the ball moving. You can even see Stotts at times waving his arms to get them down the court quicker. This whole crossing mid court at the 17-18 seconds on the shot clock isn't good at all. He tried passing long but of course on both occasions LeBron was sitting there looking for it.
     
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    Yeah. I would, too. Doesn't make me an above-average talent, though, which was the context I was responding about ... is he better than we think he is and better than players playing for the Blazers.

    There are a lot of guys in the G League now that would bring energy and work hard every night. There are a lot of guys waiting for their agent to call them that a team wants to give them a shot who'd do the same. Tim Frazier did that. Steve Blake did that and actually could generate offense more consistently.

    Just making the point that he's an average talent who got a break and he fills a role but it's a role that could be filled by more than dozens of other players and IS filled by dozens of other players in the NBA right now, they just don't get noticed because they aren't playing on the Lakers and next to LeBron.

    Put Caruso on the Blazers. Does he fit anywhere? Does he see the floor? Where do you play him? Undersized bulldog two guard with a very inconsistent stroke who jumps well enough to make a highlight dunk every few games but he needs players to draw attention from the defense to open that up for him. The number of fits for him in the NBA where he actually is a contributor is pretty limited, IMO. Great guy to have your rotation practice against, though, because he's a guy that would never let them get lazy. A lot of them would hate him for not letting them dog it in practices. But put him in a game? I'm having trouble thinking of any legitimate contending or near contending team other than the Lakers where he gets significant minutes.
     
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    Even the best players sometimes get pig-headed about certain things. Dame's gotten great not by being born a physical abnormality like LeBron or Giannis or KD. He's worked hard to get to this point.

    Often that means finding the stuff you can't do and doing it and failing at it until you CAN do it. Maybe Dame takes these traps as a challenge and he feels he has to prove something by beating them on his own. Except there are more efficient and productive ways to beat them and resorting to those in no way diminishes him as a player.

    It's great showing you can beat Goliath if you have to, but it's foolish going around picking fights with every Goliath just to make a meaningless point.
     
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    he's also the same age as Luca Doncic, Marvin Bagley, & Jaren Jackson. Trent is only a half-year older. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Michael Porter Jr, Kevin Huerter, & Deandre Ayton are only a year older. All those guys entered the NBA at the same time as Simons

    Ja Morant, Keldon Johnson, & Cam Reddish are the same age. Darius Garland is a half-year younger. So are Coby White & Tyler Herro. Zion and RJ Barret are a year younger.

    Anthony Edwards, James Wiseman, Lamelo Ball, and Patrick Williams are 2 years younger. Tyrese Haliburton and Cole Anthony are a year younger. Immanuel Quickley is the same age

    yes, a lot of those guys were taken higher in the draft so you'd expect their talent to be greater. At the same time it's obvious that even 19 year old first year players can establish their games if the talent is there. A 3rd year player who got consistent minutes in his 2nd season, like Simons did, should not look like a half-dimensional bumbling rookie. Can he still turn things around? Sure, but each week that passes without him starting that turn-around reduces the odds that he will, and those odds aren't very high right now
     
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    next time Dame gets trapped, try and find an open passing lane to one of the other Blazers. I've seen 6 years of traps and invariably, when Dame's trapped, two Blazers will be stationary behind the arc on either baseline, and another will be circling around, aimlessly in the paint. The only Blazer that may be kind of close is the Blazer that brought the defender that was half of the trap and I've seen those guys repeatedly take bad angles for passing lanes.

    this isn't all on Dame, even though he's accountable; he's a 6'2 guard almost always being trapped by two taller players. His teammates have to make themselves available and there needs to be a scheme to get that pass out. That responsibility is shared and the scheme needs to be coached. I never see any of that

    besides, if Dame is always giving up the ball when he's attacked by two players, the defense is successful. Portland doesn't win many games if Dame scores 14 points on 11 shots while having 3 assists because the ball isn't in his hands enough.
     
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    Like I said, Stotts is accountable, too, but there are ways Dame can beat the trap while it's materializing. Or, you know, you can say something like "Hoodie, they're going to run at me as soon as I get across midcourt. Flash to the top of the key and I'll hit you with a pass before they do."

    And if you think we can't score enough points to win playing 4 on 3 because Dame isn't one of the four, I'm just going to have to disagree with that. If that's the issue, then you can put most of the blame on Olshey, because most NBA players are competent enough to score when unguarded.

    Or, we can look at the other side of things: How successful have the Blazers been when Dame's been trying to beat the trap essentially by himself with the dribble and taking 25 shots a game? I mean, we kind of know that doesn't work because we've been complaining about it ad nauseum.
     
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    What I have noticed is a lot of time When Dame calls for a trap he goes towards the sideline giving himself less room. Why not set the screen and go away from the sideline instead of letting the defense use it as a third defender.
     
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    I think what you are seeing is him trying to create room. Also if he is in the middle of the court he can only travel toward a sideline. When he calls for a screen he needs to be traveling from a sideline toward the center or into a lane so he needs to be off center to start.
    I do see what you are seeing and it looks bumbling at times. Nurk does this better with Lillard than Kanter as well as Melo. DJJ seems to set the screen a bit faster and has shown some success doing it.
     
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    Yes it seems like if he comes up the right hand side of the court they set a screen so he has to go right into the boundary instead of back towards the center. Part of the issue is a lot of our bigs are not good at setting screens it seems like.
     
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    One of the few things Meyers did well with having to think his way through it.

    edit- Without!
     
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    Haha no he hasn’t he sucks. He can’t even handle the ball past half court anymore without getting ripped
     

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