Game Thread GAME# 38: BLAZERS @ LAKERS - JANUARY 11, 2015 - SUNDAY, 6:30 PM (PST), CSNNW

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Darkwebs, Jan 11, 2015.

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How many shots will Kobe take?

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  1. Sinobas

    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

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    But he plays a lot of minutes too. His rebounding rate is about average. Call him a good rebounder if you want, but it's not like he's an all-star due to his great defense/rebounding. He's really nothing special in those areas....and he's not special on offense either. He should take less shots and he'd be a good starting PF, but it's like he thinks he's a superstar that has to carry the team. NO one else takes more shots than la.
     
  2. magnifier661

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    Actually Aldridge is not even leading the league in minutes played
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2015_leaders.html

    And FGA totals:
    2PA is second to Blake Griffin. and Second to James Harden for total FGA. But remember that Portland has played 2 more games than both Harden and 3 more than Clippers. So suspect Griffin and Harden would overtake Aldridge.

    And if you are using that minutes played factor, then AD is an average rebounder as well.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01.html - LMA per game 36.4 (10.5 rebounds)

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/davisan02.html - AD per game 35.8 (10.5 rebounds)

    So AD has a slight edge on Aldridge with having the same rebounds with only 1 minute less a game.
     
  3. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    LaMarcus takes a lot of shots...because he can. I suspect it's pretty hard to get a decent shot off against NBA players. Aldridge can shoot whenever he wants, in lots of different ways, so the defense has to pay a lot of attention to him. It's a strategy. It's working.
     
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    And let me remind you Sinobas that Aldridge is leading the league in second chance points, while normally being 10-15 ft from the basket for most of the offensive possessions. So rebounding efficiency will always be much lower. And like I've told you many times before, he is still 7th in the entire league even being 10-15 ft from the basket on the majority of the offensive sets (getting the offensive boards and put backs).
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Yep... He is the only player besides Lillard that you can toss the ball to and they can create their own shot. This helps when the flow has stopped or when shots aren't falling. The fact that Lillard or Aldridge isn't afraid to shoot the lower efficiency shots shows more about being an All-star and leader than just a borderline player.
     
  6. blue9

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    I disagree - both Wes and Kaman have better post-up games than LMA.
     
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    Then we agree to disagree because I've never seen Wes or Kaman doubled in the post. Aldridge is normally always doubled in the post
     
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    Wes gets doubled almost every time he's in the post.
     
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    It's fine to disagree, but both Wes and Kaman get doubled in the post. And you have a strange definition of "always" - if you meant "sometimes", then yes, sometimes LMA is doubled in the post.
     
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    When? Oh wait it's Kingspeed, the hyperbole king
     
  11. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    So you would be fine having Kaman over Aldridge? I mean you hate his perimeter shot, so then the only thing that would be valuable is his inside game. So you want Kaman ovrr Aldridge?
     
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    Where did I say that?
     
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    Well you said Kaman has a better post up game than Aldridge. Then you said Aldridge is horrible when he shoots the mid range. So if you value Aldridge, then it would have to be his post game. But since Kaman is a better post player, then why even have Aldridge? Kaman is a better defender, rebounder and plays the post better than Aldridge according to you.

    Basically, you would rather have Kaman play than Aldridge with everything negative you posted about Aldridge.
     
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    Keep spinning that strawman into gold, Rumpelstiltskin!
     
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    He actually has been getting doubled as of late.
     
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    If LMA were white I bet some of you would like him more.
     
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    Wait so why would you choose Aldridge over Kaman then? Do I have your takes on Aldridge wrong?
     
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    Clearly.
    I don't like LMA, but if the choice is LMA or Kaman it's pretty obvious that 101 out of 100 people would choose LMA.
    To get back to the root of this conversation, you said Dame and LMA were the only guys who could create their own shot. I said that I disagreed - both Wes and Kaman can create (I think I said "have a better post game") their own shot just fine. Heck, even Blake can create his own shot - though he primarily tries to create for others (same with Nic).
     
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    Well this is what you said. So that's why the road turned.

    At least you can acknowledge Aldridge is a better player than Aldridge. Do you feel the same about Wes vs Aldridge too?

    Just want to see where you see Aldridge. For a minute there, it sure looked like you said those two were better players
     
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    I think Aldridge is better than Aldridge but LaMarcus is worse than LaMarcus.
     

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