Did anyone notice in the 3rd quarter when Odom was heating up, and the crowd was wild, Smush took the ill advised 3? The crowd immediately got quiet, Smush's 3 led to a long rebound, and the Suns regained their composure. Yeah, Smush is garbage.
Have you ever noticed, every time Smush checks back in, you can hear the crowd booing? Anyways, I was impressed with Lamar today. He was quiet in the first half and started to heat up in the second. Lamar is a warrior, coming into this season losing his son, and playing with an injury that should have ended his season.
Man, I remember that play. Smush just rushed the 3 and the moment just got killed. Odom's dunk with his left hand over Amare was too sick. Steve Nash was a beast out there today. To Mamba, why is Dirk more deserving of the MVP than Nash?
<div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Man, I remember that play. Smush just rushed the 3 and the moment just got killed. Odom's dunk with his left hand over Amare was too sick. Steve Nash was a beast out there today. To Mamba, why is Dirk more deserving of the MVP than Nash?</div> Oh come on I had that response in my post for a couple of weeks. There are plenty of answers in current threads.
The best player on the best team in basketball. That seems to be the formula, right? Or else last year's results would've been different.
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The best player on the best team in basketball. That seems to be the formula, right? Or else last year's results would've been different.</div> Uh, no. Chauncey Billups wasn't even in the MVP race at the end of the season.
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Lol Nash drops 23 assists in one game and he's vaulted to the top of the MVP list, again? PG's like Nash come around more often than big men like Dirk or SG's like Kobe. If Dirk doesn't win the MVP, it'll even a bigger joke than it already is.</div> LOL. Dirk has no business winning the MVP award. Nash deserves one this year as well.
dirk is not mvp, even if he wins it, its players like nash, kobe,wade and bosh that are the mvp's not some euro jumpshooter who's got a starting five other teams can only dream of. i dont even believe dirk is the best player on the mavs, he only scores alot because the plays are drawn up for him, jason terry and josh howard are more complete players than dirk so saying that mvp is best player on best team is stupid. it doesnt even look as if dirk can get his team out of the first round, is that really mvp material? even if it is mvp of the regular season, you still expect an mvp to make it out of the first round, atleast.
<div class="quote_poster">AKIRA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">dirk is not mvp, even if he wins it, its players like nash, kobe,wade and bosh that are the mvp's not some euro jumpshooter who's got a starting five other teams can only dream of. i dont even believe dirk is the best player on the mavs, he only scores alot because the plays are drawn up for him, jason terry and josh howard are more complete players than dirk so saying that mvp is best player on best team is stupid. it doesnt even look as if dirk can get his team out of the first round, is that really mvp material? even if it is mvp of the regular season, you still expect an mvp to make it out of the first round, atleast.</div> I agree. I always liked Josh Howard better than Dirk. I'm not taking anything away from what Dirk has done but if anyone is to win the MVP award, it's either Kobe or Nash, but right now I think Nash will win it since the Suns are leading. If the Lakers were up in ths series by now with Nash struggling, Kobe may have had a shot over Nash.
<div class="quote_poster">WadeDynasty Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I agree. I always liked Josh Howard better than Dirk. I'm not taking anything away from what Dirk has done but if anyone is to win the MVP award, it's either Kobe or Nash, but right now I think Nash will win it since the Suns are leading. If the Lakers were up in ths series by now with Nash struggling, Kobe may have had a shot over Nash.</div> MVP is for regular season, not playoffs. The votes are already in ... what happens in the playoffs has no bearing on the regular season MVP voting, nor should it .. that said, im pretty broken hearted about today's game. With 2 more games at Phoenix, i think its pretty safe to say we're toast
<div class="quote_poster">AKIRA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">dirk is not mvp, even if he wins it, its players like nash, kobe,wade and bosh that are the mvp's not some euro jumpshooter who's got a starting five other teams can only dream of. i dont even believe dirk is the best player on the mavs, he only scores alot because the plays are drawn up for him, jason terry and josh howard are more complete players than dirk so saying that mvp is best player on best team is stupid. it doesnt even look as if dirk can get his team out of the first round, is that really mvp material? even if it is mvp of the regular season, you still expect an mvp to make it out of the first round, atleast.</div> Lamar Odom can get you a triple double but he's not yet an all-star (going by his offensive production). Being a complete player in the way you used it does not mean Terry/Howard are better than Dirk. And why did Bobcats bring up Billups? Getting the 1st seed in the east is much easier and the Pistons are very comparable in ability whereas Dirk had been dominating the PER category.
I don't know about you guys, if Lakers lose this series, I'm on the Warriors bandwagon straight up. And since they're technically a California team, I'm not completely jumping the wagon This team is just so incredible to watch. The amount of heart they play with is absolutely incredible. Really pisses me off how the Lakers don't play like that all the time.
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Lamar Odom is can get you a triple double but he's not yet an all-star (going by his offensive production). Being a complete player in the way you used it does not mean Terry/Howard are better than Dirk. And why did Bobcats bring up Billups? Getting the 1st seed in the east is much easier and the Pistons are very comparable in ability whereas Dirk had been dominating the PER category.</div> The Suns did not have the best record in the West last year not even second best so best player on the best team is not the criteria. So it does not matter if Detroit even had a better record because West teams did. Nash probably won't get it this year because of the regular season stats for Dirk, but his acoomplishments today, amazing. If he continues this pace, and we get into the finals than I think he is hands down the finals MVP but that is way too far into the future. Anyways I respect Kobe's game and had he been on a team with about 50 wins I would gladly see him as the MVP. But for any who think a case can't be made for Nash as MVP again. Here is a nice glass of Haterade.
Kobe did everything he could. 31 points 8 or nine assists and 7 boards. something like that. Can't recall exactly. odom stepped up too. Kwame played well the first half but did terribly in the 2nd. SMUSH well is SMUSH. everytime he came back in, the Suns would build a bigger lead...
i can only remember one thing as the turning point in this game! Kobe passed the ball to kwame, he dunked it and a whistle was blown, crowd went wild because we were down by four and we all thought kwame made a basket plus the foul (assist via kobe) then he gets called for an offensive foul in the restricted area!!! (talk about bad luck) Then suns get possesion and immediately Diaw drives to the hoop for an And 1... Suns lead back up to 3! (more bad luck) If that offensive foul wasnt called we could have very well won the game!
Did anybody see that dirty play that Nash did to Kobe when he was taking the ball to the basket? He stuck his foot like he was doing a flying kick to Kobe's gut... Kobe was furious and the ref was right in front of them, which of course didn't blow his whistle.... How bias is this league???
These playoffs have really driven home this point for me. The Lakers success is a direct result of Kwame's play. When he's a factor on offense we can beat any team in the league, and when he's not, the Lakers can lose to any team in the league. In Game 3 Kwame outplayed Amare Stoudemire and everything fell into place for the Lakers. In Game 4 Amare completely dominated Kwame and the Suns coasted for a majority of this game. I'm not too, thrilled about this notion of our success hinging on Kwame's play. He's proven to be one thing so far in his NBA career ... INCONSISTENT. The Lakers need to acquire a frontline player who can provide the team with 15/8 every night and play defense. Kwame showing up 1 out 4 games (25%) of the time is not going to get it done for us. I also recall the Smush Parker momentum killing 3 pointer. Lamar Odom had just made a vicious move with an authoritative dunk. The Lakers cut the lead to 6, and Odom was playing with a lot of enthusiasm. He had hit a bucket prior to that one, and ran down a long rebound. When a player is feeling it like Odom was, you have to milk him and feed the hot hand. Smush instead gets the ball and jacks up a 3 pointer. What really killed us though, was the way we closed out quarters. The Suns really punished us in the final 2 minutes of each quarter and would push a 4 point lead, back up to 8 or 10 points with timely 3 pointers, and layups plus the foul. The Lakers didn't close out any of the quarters strong last night and constantly played catchup with the Suns.
Yah, pretty much the only thing that made up the Lakers lose was watching Shaq shed a tear from having to sweep up last years confetti with the broom that the Bulls gave to him after their game....
If Kwame makes such a difference for us (and I agree that he does), all this means is that if we get someone who is more consistent inside (KG, JO), we will be ballen like crazy without a doubt!!! Let’s get some work done this summer Mitch!
