Game Thread GAME# 48: ROCKETS @ BLAZERS - JANUARY 29, 2020 - WEDNESDAY, 7:00 PM, ESPN & NBCSNW

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Darkwebs, Jan 26, 2020.

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What has you more pumped to watch the Blazers game as of late?

Poll closed Feb 2, 2020.

  1. Getting Trevor Ariza

    17 vote(s)
    26.2%

  2. Getting Wenyen Gabriel

    5 vote(s)
    7.7%

  3. Lillard's blazing hot shooting

    50 vote(s)
    76.9%

  4. The impending return of Nurkic

    16 vote(s)
    24.6%

  5. The battle for the 8th seed

    7 vote(s)
    10.8%

  6. The return of Caleb Swanigan

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  7. Watching the development of our youths (Trent, Little, Simons, etc)

    17 vote(s)
    26.2%

  8. Hoping Stotts gets fired

    3 vote(s)
    4.6%

  9. Hoping Olshey gets fired

    4 vote(s)
    6.2%

  10. I am NOT pumped to watch the Blazers game

    3 vote(s)
    4.6%
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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    CJ's problem is his inability to get to the line. He shoots decently from everywhere, but if even 2 of those FGAs from midrange became 4 FTAs, he'd be so much more efficient.

    These are the only players in the league putting up 20 ppg on less than 4 FT attempts per game. This is unheard of that he can't even make 2 free throws a game given how much he has the ball in his hands.

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    He struggles to get contact and is so focused on making midrange shots instead. Even if he could make two of those midrangers into three point attempts, I think it could work to increase his TS% and indirectly his p/a to a decent level.
     
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  2. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    If we're looking at CJ's FGA, we should be looking at his EFG, not his TS%. He's only 71st in the league in EFG, not as bad as the 152nd in TS%. And actually only 20th in the NBA in FGA/100p. So his usage vs efficiency is not quite as bad as you suggest. I mean, it's not great, but also not egregious.
     
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  3. wizenheimer

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    I don't really agree. Maybe that's my bias because I've never liked eFG or found it an accurate representation of shooting or scoring. Any shooting stat that completely disregards FT's is incomplete. I know it's not artful, but drawing fouls and making FT's are a critical part of the game. That's because they are an end product of many possessions. If CJ is poor at that 'skill', then many Blazer possessions are ending in an inefficient manner. And considering CJ's usage and FGA's, that's a significant percentage of Portland's possessions.

    last season, CJ had a better eFG% than Dame. He had better 2ptFG and 3ptFG percentages as well. But Dame scored 4.8 more points/game on only 1.4 more FGA/game. Dame averaged 1.35 points/shot vs CJ at 1.18. Dame had a .588 TS% while CJ had a .553 TS%. Looking at all that, there's no doubt who was the better scorer and better shooter; TS% reflects all that. Dame outscored CJ by 3.6 points/game from the FT line. eFG% completely ignores those points, and that makes me tend to generally ignore eFG%
     
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  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I don't disagree that TS is superior to EFG when looking at overall scoring efficiency. All I'm saying is that if we're specifically looking at his FGA, EFG is the more relevant efficiency stat. If we're looking at usage rate, for example, then TS makes much more sense.
     
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  5. wizenheimer

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    ok....I guess

    I'm not really clear it is on what you're trying to gauge....?

    when I used FGA's, points/shot and TS%, what I was going for was to gauge the product of a possession. Who used that possession and how he ranks compared to others. Measure a possession's efficiency in generated points....the scoreboard in other words.

    the efficiency ratio between two's and three's gauges those things poorly, IMO
     
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