Game Thread GAME# 49: BLAZERS @ LAKERS - JANUARY 31, 2020 - FRIDAY, 7:30 PM, ESPN & NBCSNW

GREAT defender all nba 1st team defense 4 times, 2nd team 1 Time, 3rd team 1 time , all-nba 2nd team once and all-nba 3rd team once.

 

LMAO...."good defender"

Dumars was a 4-time all-NBA 1st team defender and a 5th time on the 2nd team. He was all-NBA twice and a 6-time all-star. And he deserved every one of those honors. He also played until he was 35 so using his career numbers distorts a comparison because CJ hasn't played thru his decline yet. And he spent a good part of his career playing in an NBA that didn't utilize the three-ball. Dumars attempted less that 300 three's over his first 7 seasons. CJ has already attempted 313 this season alone, and he's missed 5 games

Dumars also played in a different era when hand-checking and physical defense were not only allowed but rewarded. If CJ had to play against they type of defenses Dumars did, he'd cry a lot then quit the game

CJ probably isn't even on the level as these three guys, and he certainly doesn't have the upside:

http://bkref.com/tiny/bfeOn

 

Yeah..."logical assumptions"...lol...
Personally, for this year only, I think it would work.
I'm in favor of easing Nurk back...shit...bring him off the bench..
This year.

 

regardless. McCollum is still a good player.

 

perhaps, but it was a poor comparison, Dumars to McCullum, and showed another limitation of comparing stats only.

 

yeah yeah, great defender!
I never said he was as great as Dumars but his career stats to date indicate he's a decent guard in todays game.
Hell, if Curry went up against Dumars or Payton with hand checking think he's have the sats he does now? No way

 

I know, he was, and I should have said that, rather than good!
He also had some really good teammates that were solid defenders.

 

Who would say is the best defending 2 guard in the league now?

 

currently? probably have to go with Jimmy Butler or Jrue Holiday or Marcus Smart. Bledsoe is pretty good but he's more of a PG, although I'm not sure it matters on defense. Healthy you'd have to include Oladipo and Klay in the mix

 

The big ragu, Donte DiVincenzo

 

I don’t think anyone doubts that CJ is a good player... I think the issue is that Dame is a superstar, and there are better ways to use the salary cap then committing $30+ mil per year the next 4 seasons to CJ.

 

the person I originally responded to did. We could easily do a lot worse than a McCollum/ Lillard backcourt and it wouldn't be easy to do much better. Heck, there were some who were ready to dump McCollum and promote Simons to starting shooting guard.

 

Dumars was one of the preeminante defenders in the league during his era. CJ is....not.
So they may have some similar shooting numbers on offense but to ignore the other 50% where there is a Grand Canyon size gap is disrespectful to Joe D.

 

I wasn't ignoring or disrespecting Joe Dumars, geez louise.
So, who in your opinion is the best defending 2 guard in the league now?

 

Wasn't very selfish tonight. Matter of fact he hasn't been selfish at all for this entire run Lillard is making right now. One thing i have also noticed he has been holding the team together and facilitating very well during the portion of his shift that Lillard is on the bench. Tonight vs Utah he made some huge baskets played very good defense and his two man game with Melo is very tough to defend.

 

and he played well last night too.

 

https://www.nba.com/article/2020/02/03/kobe-tribute-game-2nd-most-watched-espn-nba-history

 

Nope. Wrong again.

 

Knew whole world was watching but wow. Dame DOLLA.