Game Thread GAME# 54: HEAT @ BLAZERS - FEBRUARY 9, 2020 - SUNDAY, 6:00 PM, NBCSNW

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  1. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RIPcity

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    I live Nurk but the only Blazer to have numbers like Hassan is Walton, one of the best centers ever.

    I am more concerned about keeping Trent when his deal is up. He keeps this kind of play up and he may be staring at a MIP award over his fireplace next year. Shit he will only get better too. BRAVO Neil for that one.

    It's cool as fuck to see a guy, who everyone passed over in the draft as shite, to work and earn his spot. He keeps this up and I think he should strongly be considered as starting SG.

    Oh and fuck Donovan AKA the choir boy Mitchell. GT can talk as much as he damn well pleases.
     
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    stampedehero Play On>>>/ SRV

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    Windstorm knocked out power from just after 4PM to 12:36 AM. I did check final score but no TV and needed to preserve cell phone battery.

    Fed Lucia by flashlight, but she didn't get her saucer of milk until power back on.

    We are OK. And Blazers won.
     
  7. wizenheimer

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    you might be able to find those kind of numbers at NBA.com without doing math. It takes a lot of effort to wade thru all the pages and numbers there though

    quick math says Hassan takes 82.3% of his shots within 10' while Nurkic took 81.4% of his shots there. So the number of shots they take outside of 10' is small; Nurkic took 2.1 shots/game and Whiteside 1.8 shots/game. So they both convert into FG's less than 1 shot a game from that distance, somewhere in the 0.7-0.8 FG's/game. In other words, there's no significant difference there, and neither is a threat from that distance

    they do their scoring in the paint, and Whiteside has a significant efficiency advantage in that area. He shoots around 65.3% in the paint vs Nurkic at 54.4%. Big difference.

    now, one scoring efficiency stat that Nurkic had an advantage was in FT's. He scored 3.6 points/36 vs Whiteside at 3.1. But, I'm thinking this is connected to a bigger advantage Nurkic has/had over Whiteside. Nurkic is more comfortable in the high post. He sets a little better screen than Whiteside, his timing is better, and he rolls more effectively than Whiteside. IMO, that's why Nurkic's FT rate was .442 while Whiteside's was .352. Dame and Nurk had an excellent 2 man game going last year and Nurkic was often catching the ball in positions the opponents were vulnerable to shooting fouls. Here's the thing though, it took Dame and Nurkic time to build that synergy. The year before last, Nurkic's FT rate was only .287. I have little doubt that Dame and Whiteside could develop a better connection if they had another season as the starting combo. That likely won't be the case though. Another advantage Nurkic has was that Turner was better at finding him in scoring position than Bazemore, Simons, and Hazonja have been for Whiteside

    I think one advantage Whiteside has is better hands in traffic. He doesn't fumble as many passes and rebounds as Nurkic did. That's one reason why Whiteside leads the NBA in 2nd-chance points at 5.0/game. Nurkic averaged 3.6 a game
     
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  8. Wade Garrett

    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    All these analytical statistics...
    I myst be old because i cannit imagine more worthless numbers outside the 2020 republican primaries.
    Meaningless numbers that fail to account many variables including shot clock, defensive strategies, etc;
    Worthless numbers.
     
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    kjironman1 Not a Good Dude!

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    Whoa there..... Throwin mustard today i see.
     
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    ok fine...there worthless to you even though you can't say why they have no value, other than vague insinuations about "variables"

    They aren't worthless though otherwise every NBA team wouldn't use numbers like these in all their analytics. It's also not worthless to say if player A is scoring 1.3 points/shot and player B is scoring 1.03 points/shot, you want player A shooting more and player B shooting less. If player C has an assist/turnover ratio of 2.8 and player D has one of 0.8, you want player C seting up the offense over player D. Sometimes that's easy to determine with an eye test. Sometimes it's not

    one thing I've noticed is that people are often very dismissive of stats when they don't conform to their bias. It's one thing to be skeptical of a single stat or two showing a 'conclusion' you don't like. It's another thing when a large number of stats confirm that conclusion and the result is you say stats are worthless
     
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    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    No not at all...
    Just nit a fan of some analyticals.
    Whats coming next?
    "FT% on even numbered days"?
    "Turnover% when 18,000 are in attendance?"
    "Win/loss share on Tuesday"?
    Just not a fan of analytics.
    Tooooo many variables.
     
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    My attempt at sarcasm was weak. I agree. Stats are a tool but that is all. We manipulate things with tools to create the objects we want. It's not at all different with analytics.
     
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    When dealing with a small sample size, the variables matter. As the sample size increases to 1/4 of the season the variables even out
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    How can we call this a win? They were MyLe-less, which I have been led to understand on this forum is the lynchpin of the Heat franchise. It's like beating the L*kers without LeBron and AD.
     
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    Payback. Lillard highlighted how bad the refs were in the Utah game and Silver backed him. You think Dame is getting another call this season?
     
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    Dame not getting fined might be the worst thing to happen.
     
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    F'ing Javie.
     
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    kjironman1 Not a Good Dude!

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    Butters Hammer?
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    kjironman1 Not a Good Dude!

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    An actual butter hammer?
    [​IMG]
     
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    kjironman1 Not a Good Dude!

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    This is a real Butter Hammer though.
    [​IMG]
     
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