Game Thread GAME# 57: THUNDER @ BLAZERS - FEBRUARY 27, 2015 - FRIDAY, 7:30 PM (PST), ESPN & CSNNW

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How many points will Afflalo score?

Poll closed Feb 27, 2015.

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  4. 14+

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    Not much brains in there anyway, he'll be back on the court in a couple of days!
     
    blue32, Feb 28, 2015
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    Wow hopefully the guy is ok

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...city-thunder-being-evaluated-taking-knee-head

     
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    Hahahahaha!!!

    Way to give up on your team.

    You were missed.

    I believe it was Blake who threw a chair.

    Me too!!! It was the most fun I've had in years. Totally worth selling my multicade for.

    Dude. We were cheering for them the whole time.

    So we don't suck anymore, right? Nice 6-3 February. I wanted 9-0 but I'll take 6-3 with those last 2 wins. 3-1 vs Spurs, 3-0 vs OKC.

    No he doesn't. What's the NBA record for most missed shots in a 27 hour period? Westbrook missed 44 shots! That's the NBA history we should be talking about. Bledsoe and Lillard outclassed Westbrook in these last 2 games. Westbrook clearly goes after triple doubles but doesn't have a clue how to lead a team to victories. I don't think they'll make the playoffs. Pels have won 4 straight and OKC lost the two most important games of their season thus far.

    Me too, thanks!!!!!
    McGary was OKC's best player tonight. Don't know why he was benched in the 4th.

    They made it to the WCF in 2009. Afflalo wasn't a Nugget yet though.

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    Sounds like a Prince song: "When Love Cries."
     
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    If we're thinking about the same challenge, Ibaka's body was straight up, but his arms came down at a 45 degree angle, thus a foul.
     
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    Ibaka tried to be a tough guy but the stats don't lie: Ibaka is LMA's bitch.
     
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    DUB Da, da da, da dah!

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    I reckon both of them have at separate times.

    I don't doubt that you were.

    But the place sounded like a morgue when we went on a bad run.

    The fans are far too passive. They could learn a lesson or two from European soccer fans.

    The worse the team is doing, the louder the fans chant.

    Constant fan pressure influences the referees.
     
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    It looked like barely anything to me.

    A bruise does not equal serious damage.

    I think he's playing it up as an excuse for losing.
     
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    Different cultures and different sports have different ways of doing things. Soccer is boring and lacks excitement... so they generate their own. Basketball is constant action and a game of runs. You can't compare those two. That's just silly and flat out asinine.
     
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    I get where you're coming from with different cultures, and different sports.

    I follow many different sports from many different areas of the world.

    My point still stands that the crowd could influence both the team/s, and refs if they weren't so passive.
     
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    Then the refs aren't doing their job. All crowds are passive as hell when they are losing.
     
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    Most annoying part of this game...
    Westbrook's uncalled delay of game with 8:09 left in the 4th quarter.
    Last years the refs were delay of game nazis and would call you on it if the ball bounced off the back of your hand.
    This year they have let up some bit, which is good, but how did they not call this one?
    The Blazers are trying to make a come back and Westbrook get's to take a shot at the rim when the ball is out of bounds to Portland?
    Come on!

    [​IMG]
     
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    I'm watching the replay right now on LP... 3 minutes in and Mark Jackson has said the same 3 sentences twice. He may be the worst.
     
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    There have been many studies done (Google it if you don't believe me) that show that refs/umpires are subconsciously influenced by the crowd.

    Crowds help their teams by not being passive consumers of the game in front of them, but by being actively involved in the outcome of the game.

    This is also a complaint/niggle that I have about crowds in Australia, who are equally as passive as crowds in the US of A.

    I agree, mostly in the US of A, and also Australia (it's a cultural thing), but that's definitely not the case in many sports world wide.

    Look at the Timbers for a local example.
     
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    Well he had a hard time getting RW's cock out of his mouth. It doesn't get out until the fourth quarter.............. :(
     
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    Sports in general have different ways... Almost all soccer... fans are expected to be boisterous. It's part of the culture. In baseball, for the most part (except for japan and maybe mexico) it's mostly silence. Two slow sports, little action, different ways that go about it. Football and Basketball is constant noise, constant movement, so the fans can kinda pick and choose when to cheer.

    Being an umpire that's worked from anywhere between 10 people and thousands... if you're a quality official, nothing should affect you but the play on the field/court/pitch. It takes a mentally strong person confident in themselves.
     
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    Good lord. Is there a game going on? Or is it Russell Westbrook one man show with cameo appearances by other players? Shut the fuck up, ESPN. I wish LP would allow people to choose whether to do the national broadcast or their local if it's available for the same game.
     
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    You can argue all you like about whether refs should be influenced; the fact is they are influenced. By many factors. By star players, by coaches, by the league, by the crowd, by having a bad day. These things are subconscious, and they are a fact.

    Why remove one influence (to both refs, and the team/s) by sitting on your hands?

    I guess I don't exactly get what your point is? I don't disagree with you about how things mostly are in regards to crowd support.

    I just think that with less passiveness our crowd could influence games more (both encouraging/dis-encouraging players, and refs).

    Do you think that our crowd can't influence games more?

    Do you think that our crowd shouldn't influence games more?

    Do you think that it's too great of an expectation for our crowd too show more enthusiasm when we are on a bad run?

    I think that we can, and should do more. Many college basketball crowds are a good example of the effort we could be putting in.

    If we can't match their effort do they care more about their college than we do about the Trail Blazers?
     
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    The crowd influencing the referees is beside the point.
    The thing that could be valuable is the crowd influencing the players, the crowd "getting into it" could have an effect on the players.
    The Moda-Center is one of the strongest home-courts in the league, though, so the crowd is certainly doing something right.
     
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    It may be a fact, but that doesn't mean it's the norm. There are way more influences than that. If you're going to be an official, you need to be able to turn off everything but your work. Some can do that, others can't. To get an accurate gauge on these studies, there needs to be further psychological testing to see what other motivations may be in play. I don't doubt that they -can- be influenced, but the good officials should -never- get influenced. That's just poor officiating. There are ways to "catch" your subconscious, but that's psychological stuff that goes much deeper.

    As far as the fans. College is a bad example. It's a culture thing. Be as loud as your college buddy. "look the part", so to speak. Being in college is all about finding yourself, and also for some it's about the consumption of alcohol to achieve less inhibitions. College is it's own entity, especially if you are talking universities, etc.

    Our crowds are some of the best in the NBA. But, you're asking 20,000 people to adhere to one (of many forms) form of cheering. To "conform" in a sense, to be more boisterous, but you can't make people do what they don't want (or feel like doing) to do. I go to a ton of baseball games, and I never do any of the cheers, any of the manufactured crap. Same for blazers games. That's all fluff. I let real emotion take over. I can't manufacture cheering when there's no sense in it. I will, however, tell them to start working harder. That doesn't sound like big cheers. It's a human instinct (Just like the refs being 'influenced, as you say) to not be cheering unless good is happening, or there's a precipice of goodness. There's times to 'circumvent' the subconscious (Like being a ref, in this example) and times where it really doesn't seem advantageous or fulfilling to do it (like cheering or forcing yourself to exclaim positively during a real moment of distress, however minor). Especially when you're in an environment of extreme ups and downs as a basketball game can produce.

    What you're asking people to do is to circumvent their subconscious, while you are saying officials can't do anything but react to their subconscious. That doesn't seem fair to discount one while validating the other.

    It's possible to override the subconscious, but it needs to be for a damn good reason, and a temporary cheer for a team that's not giving you happiness in that moment seems really counter-productive.

    I think you and I are going to agree to disagree on this subject. That's alright, that's what being a human is, we have our opinions. :)

    I'm getting a psychological boner talking about this, though, so I thank you.
     
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    He just got caught up daydreaming about coaching the Thunder, im surprised he didnt just keep saying the same thing over and over until his daydream finished
     
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