Game 6 will Panarin ever find his small nuts?

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  1. Messiah717

    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    That's why I said he's the best big money goalie in the NHL. Those numbers are absurd.
     
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    A little deceiving mess as if he had the rangers D in front of him facing the point blank shots, breakaways and front of the net traffic that IGOR did he would have fared worse than Igor as we saw the first 2 games. The last 4 games Vasilinsky was drinking coffee and eating donuts in the nets.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Exactly Mel. He was barely tested in this series after game 2. His blocker side high is an enormous flaw. His reaction time in that spot is way below average. Tampa's defense simply denies teams from getting time to line that shot up.
     
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    Gallant's refusal to change up the game plan is very frustrating. Tampa changed things up after the first two games. The Rangers were content to bang their heads against the wall on their way to four straight loses.

    Hadn't lost four straight all season. They picked a heck of a time for it.
     
  5. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Tampa is the best money team in the sport. That doesn't make Vasilevskiy the best money goalie. Look at Hank's career record in game 6's and 7's. Yet, he didn't have the best money team around him. Also, being a money goalie doesn't just mean game clinching games. That's a moronic way of looking at it. The year before in his series clinching games, he didn't face over 30 shots once. In game 7 vs. the Islanders he faced 22 shots and was alseep the entire game. In game 5 vs. the Habs he faced 18 shots. Please. Shesterkin faces that in a period some times.

    Here are the shot numbers Shesterkin faced in his playoff games. Two he got pulled. 83, 41, 15, 30, 32, 34, 42, 26, 21, 44, 31, 34, 39, 39, 39, 31, 52, 30, 26, 31.


    If you think Vasilevskiy would have any of the numbers he has especially in game clinching games facing those shot totals, you're on fucking crack. Now this playoffs he has been busier. However, the Florida series was deceiving. They had a ton of shots but they were very poor quality and most were all from the outside. The quality of shot that Shesterkin faces is often absurd because of youth mistakes on defense or the lack of a better defensive system.
     
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    I don't see what Gallant can do or adjust if his marquis players not named Igor are not making an effort. The Rangers looked gassed after game 3, which I would expect from a team with their youth and inexperience but they did have the Bolts on the ropes for a little while. The Rangers took a page from TB this year adding grit, years past Stamkos and company would dominate the regular season only to get bullied out of the playoffs. That's why they are so tough now, their 3rd and 4th lines bring it every shift. I don't think the Rangers will move any player with a NMC. The guy I would use for a premier C is Fox. Unless he starts going to the Tony D school of toughness his body will not withstand the constant beating. He's the type of player the Rangers need to put in a deal for another #1C.
     
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    It would make sense if this was Vasilevsky's first trip to the finals. He's going for the third straight time what we want the Rangers to do once.
     
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    This Vas stuff is funny. Guy has won 2 straight cups, is off to another SCF, and has sick numbers in big games. Now all of the sudden the Rangers found something, and he is nothing special. Good stuff. And yes shocker every goalie needs support, that is not a knock on Vas, that is a credit to the TB team. No goalie can win alone, with no O, or no D.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Who gives a fuck. Maroon is going to the finals for the 4th time in a row. Chris Osgood won multiple cups with Detroit. He sucked as a goalie until he was on a powerful team. Matt Murray went to the finals twice and won with Pitt. Now he can't even hold a starting job. Watch what Vasilevskiy does when age finally catches Hedman and McDonagh. Hedman is 30, McDonagh is 32. Both with a ton of hockey. When they lose a step his defense won't be allowing poor quality shots in the majority of his game. Then we'll see how money he is.
     
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    What the hell is even your argument? That's he's not one of the best in the league or a big game goalie? Who would argue that right now? It would be like trying to say right now Steph Curry isn't the best shooter in the NBA.
     
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    What he us saying is Vas is a lot like Marty Brodieur in that he is blessed with a solid team in front of him. The last four games he didn't need to stand on his head to win games.
     
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    Exactly he barely had to do shit the last four games he’s had a lot of those games the past three years in the playoffs. Hopefully we can build a team like that
     
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    Sometimes in here we go down ridiculous bunny trails. Now the argument is the guy who is universally viewed as the best goalie in hockey, has amazing numbers overall, and especially in clinching games, isn't really anything special. Oh and let's throw Brodeur in there also. The homerism is funny sometimes.
     
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    Because he wasn't overworked this series the previous years and playoff series don't count lol.
     
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    You can honestly say that you watched these last 4 games and had moments saying to your self...
    ..omg what a tremendous save...this guy robbed us...all world goalie..

    No..I'm not taking anything away from him but outside of the power play goals he didn't have much to do.
     
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    I have a pretty good idea....he'll be admiring his 2 (potentially 3+) Stanley Cup rings, multiple Vezina Trophy wins and not giving a fuck that his best days may be behind him.
     
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    The question isn't was Vas asked to be great and stand on his head against the Rangers. The question is overall is Vas great, and has he been the best goalie in the world, and especially best big game goalie in the world, the past few years. Of course the answer to those questions is yes. Everyone knows it and has said it, except in here.

    You have turned it into did he have to make a ton of great saves, get tested often, and stand on his head against the Rangers. Not sure what that has to do with anything Al. This is overall, you are talking one series against us - where mind you he did get it done.

    We didn't test him near enough in games 3-6 in this series. His numbers were great in those games, and bottom line is he got the job done for sure, but that comes with the comment he didn't get tested much at all. For what it is worth, we agree there.
     
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    I don't care what the fuck he admires when his defense slips. I care about our team defense getting stronger. If you want to suck the cock of a goalie who is barely tested in most of his playoff games, go ahead.
     
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    Two Stanley Cup Championships is what matters. Period. Bottom line. Possibly on his way to a third. Don't pretend like you aren't seething with jealousy of that franchise like the rest of us.
     

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