Game Thread GAME# 71: MAVERICKS @ BLAZERS - MARCH 20, 2019 - WEDNESDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW

Well lets start with these.....

First off two years ago you never said "Virtually" but i have no way to prove that. And really that was all the response was about. I was giving you credit but you simply could not catch that someone might be being nice on this board.

Next. This is the very definition of an assumption.

This is also so many assumptions i don't know where to start? Beings my original post was simply saying at lest you were saying there is a way.

At this point your post has dropped about 5 or 6 different assumptions but here is the funny part. You have Aminu, Curry, Hood, Possibly Layman, Kanter, Turner, Harkless, and Leonard off the team to acquire Brogdon. A total of $55-56 Million on the current payroll. Even i can count that. And of course I AM just a fan.

This is the part that really puzzles me. What are you playing along on? Nobody anywhere disagreed with you? Certainly not me. Even my original post was " I think he will get paid". Meaning The Bucks will keep him.

Please don't give me a drawn out response because this is already tiring and not entertaining at all. You asked for what i feel are assumptions and i gave you an answer just to be polite. I did it because i do believe if you are going to make the statement then back it up or at least explain the reason i said "So many Assumptions".
Take care Hoops. No stress my friend.

 

Im not really sure what you’re trying to say...

 

Not at all. I just used it as an example. Don't take it literally.

 

Well you have to go back about 20 freaking posts and 16 different threads so i can understand that.

 

Ive read this thread, and most threads, just seems confusing. Maybe Im just tired.

 

Seriously. It gets way tiring. I don't even know where to go with it at this point. Like three times i've said i don't even disagree with the entire notion hoops has come up with. Brogdon would be a great get but it would be very very unlikely to be able to even think about getting him.

 

You're not tired, KJ occasionally likes to argue and then not back up his points.

 

Alright bro. Whatever. I'm gonna back up the point that i agreed with your very point from the beginning other than you are a Detroit Piston insider which i didn't know. Sorry. I'll be better next time.

 

I can't just let you do that and then not respond.

Two years ago I absolutely said virtually. We even got into an argument over what the word virtually meant, lol.

I guess I don't understand making comments like this when we do know that Brogdon is unrealistic. He's a restricted free agent so the Bucks can match and we have no cap room. Would it be an assumption to think that if we signed him to the MLE that the Bucks would simply match? No that isn't an assumption it's pretty much guaranteed. So we do know that Brogdon is NOT realistic this summer.

You are showing a complete lack of knowledge of the cap and trying to argue with someone who you know understands it pretty well. The Blazers have $126 million in guaranteed contracts next year. That number doesn't include Curry, Hood, Aminu, Layman, and Kanter. The cap is expected to be around $109 million. That means we'd have to get under $109 million not only the amount of whatever we offered Brogdon, but also minus all the cap holds for our draft pick and each roster spot under 12 players that we'd have at that point. In my example if Brogdon signed for $20 million we'd have to get down to at the very least $89 million and I estimated the holds at that point if we got that low to be about $3 million (which is probably lower than it would be, but Layman doesn't have a huge cap hold). 126-89-3=40. So yes I was 100% correct that it would take dumping an additional $40 million after releasing those free agents to get enough cap space to maybe even have a chance to meet with Brogdon to possibly sign him and hope that the Bucks wouldn't match.

 

This is the post I'm referring to KJ.

 

I know you can't. That is one of my points when i say. This place is about entertainment.
You have to understand at some point i have never said you were wrong hoops. You do understand that i said. BROGDON IS PROBABLY GONNA GET PAID. Try.... Just Try to understand that nobody anywhere is arguing with you.

Calm down. Take a deep breath and try to enjoy a game tomorrow. It's against Detroit. So i assume you are excited about watching.

 

Sure. I figured you were a fan also. I didn't know you had a inside connection to an NBA team. Like i said i will not make that assumption again.

 

See you can't just acknowledge that posts like that can't just be said without backing up how in this case it would be realistic.

This is bullshit KJ.

 

It's about entertainment but we can't make any comments because we're stupid fans that know nothing and just speculate. Got it.

 

That's your post plain as day hoops. Now what is it that is bullshit hoops? Is it that you are a Detroit Piston insider? Or is it that you cannot possibly know what is going on with the Pistons and their owner?
Now i'm tired of the rickety rack twisted communication games. You want to make a point make it. I give zero fucks. If you want to tell people you are some NBA insider and have knowledge others don't so be it. I give zero fucks again.
There are a number of things i am indeed an expert at. When i say i know you can sure as well bet i know. When i say i don't you can again sure as well know i don't. As far as what an NBA team will do when it comes to making personnel decisions i am definitely not an expert. I am a fan and i do not have inside knowledge. So all i can do is hope for the best.
Enjoy your evening. Glad the Ducks got a win. I did not expect it but again we hope for the best.

 

Why do you say you don't know how we got on Detroit but keep fucking bringing it back to Detroit? You're the one who said there is no way any of us could possibly know what is realistic and what isn't. So no, I'm not just gonna let you slide on that one. Until you show how getting Brogdon is realistic, that post is bullshit. Go ahead and keep repeating the same stupid fucking line about us being fans but it doesn't mean shit or turning this into a different argument about the Pistons. It's the same shit you've done before with myself and Bones about coach Stotts. You can't back up shit you say and can only resort to acting like it isn't a big deal that you fucking call someone out about not knowing all the information and just being a fan.

 

Getting paid does not mean Bucks will keep him. Those two statements are not synonymous.

Any number of teams could pay him. However, Portland will not be in a position to be one of those teams

 

It does. At least the way i understand it. He is restricted so they can match. Whatever a team offers the Bucks will most likely cover. But no, i would not be the person to ask about how much that would be. Try @hoopsjock . He might come up with a better answer.

 

But you see i never said it was "realistic".
This is my original statement that you busted in on.

Then i went on and said i didn't think they would bring Mirotic back. Then i wondered weather they would be in the market for a player like Meyers?
Bones said he would not be realistic.
I said i guess we don't really know who is and who isn't? I still feel that.
Why do you have such a problem with that?

 

Yes, he is restricted and the Bucks can match any contract. But its a big assumption that the Bucks WILL match.