Yeah, I kind of wonder if maybe everybody really is going to die, and the white walkers will have their long winter for a thousand years.
I haven't read all the books, but it seems pretty inevitable that an epic battle between white walkers and dragons will eventually commence. Hard to see how the zombies win that one. Unless, of course, a dragon dies and gets transmogrified into a zombie. It'd be pretty awesome to devote all those pages just to set up an epic zombie dragon battle. The Red Wedding and the Battle of the Blackwater were my two favorite chapters in the books so far. And I gotta say, they stand out the most in the HBO series as well.
I don't think Robb was really focused on per se, but I wonder if a lot of new viewers post-season 1 seem to think the Starks are the "heroes" of the show (a fallacy that ended in Season 1 for some viewers).
Having read all the books, I still suspect that the Starks will be huge at the end of the series. Of course, that assumes that any of them are still alive at that point.
I have to agree, take into account that the current book he is working on, titled "Winds of Winter" was orginally to be called something like "A Time for Wolves" . Then he realized he could never wrap up the story in one book..now it will be three more...
I think it's only two more, but that can obviously change. Considering how long it takes him to get a single book out that last book is probably at least 10 years. away.
I'm only 1/4 of the way through book 5 (actually, I found an e-book that combined 4 and 5 in chronological order, and so I'm reading that), but I've decided that if GRRM kills Arya, I'm done with the story, even if there's 10 pages left. F that noise.
They still may have. It just wasn't shown. Plus, in the book, the Red Wedding wasn't given a chapter, which is why I was anticipating it on TV. Martin basically wrote "oh, and Robb Stark was murdered by the Boltons and Freys, and they sewed his direwolves head onto his body and put it up at the gate". That's how I remember it in the book.
It was fairly detailed in the book. It was just from catalyns point of view. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
True, but it wasn't "live action". I liked the scene a lot, but I can see how somebody who hadn't been spoiled would react. Robb Stark has basically been held up as the hero of the TV series so far, so it would be as shocking to see him die as it was for me when Ned Stark lost his head (which was before I read the books).
Uhhhh I think it was pretty much live action...from Catelyn's point of view. The stuff about sewing the wolf's head onto Robb's body was all second hand info you learn later since the chapter ends when Catelyn dies, but she sees everything that happens and its explained in detail as far as I remember. Danaerys' brother getting crowned is up there for me.
Yup. 'The white tears and the red ones ran together until her face was torn and tattered, the face that Ned had loved. Catelyn Stark raised her hands and watched the blood run down her long fingers, over her wrists, beneath the sleeves of her gown. Slow red worms crawled along her arms and under her clothes. It tickles. That made her laugh until she screamed. “Mad,” someone said, “she’s lost her wits,” and someone else said, “Make an end,” and a hand grabbed her scalp just as she’d done with Jinglebell, and she thought, No, don’t, don’t cut my hair, Ned loves my hair. Then the steel was at her throat, and its bite was red and cold.'
Maybe you can re-read the books! It's always fun to pick up on the endless amounts of foreshadowing Martin does.
yeah, with these books, it is almost a must. I was blown away by how much more I picked up in the seconed reading, and unlike most books, the reread was as enjoyable as the first time through.
oh, yeah, very harsh to read. So many "good guys" getting slaughtered, Littlejon fighting with a leg of mutton...being hit with a bolt in the mouth...seems there was pleanty of detail to me, and more came out after the fact from other POVs.
I agree, iv reread the first three books several times and need to reread the last two. You pick up on so much more the second time through and Martin foreshadows just about every shocking event that takes place. The debate that happens when you talk to other book readers about what you think is going to happen and why has been my favorite thing about this series since I started talking to people about it during that seemingly endless wait for book 4. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2