GAME THREAD: BLAZERS @ PISTONS - DECEMBER 9, 2014 - TUESDAY, 4:30 PM (PST), CSN

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  1. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    That's just for the Blazers.


    The ones I used from earlier was this one for the entire league:


    I'd be fine with him just taking fewer contested jumpers. Then again, I just want my team to win, not necessarily to have players get certain stats. But nothing like hyperbole, huh?
     
  2. magnifier661

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    And so right back at you... If you were paying attention, that statement about his efficiency was remarked as hurting the team. My clutch efficiency response absolutely refutes that claim...

    As posters say that 70% of his shots are contested jumpers. Well those clutch games of 201 shots, 70% of them are those jumpers, the games we won, when Aldridge carries us when 70% are contested...

    So I don't care if you want to claim I am not refuting... It seems I must have rubbed you wrong a few days ago. You claimed I'm argumentative with you when I'm not, then decided to argue with me... Interesting...
     
  3. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Mags, I love you brother. I just hate the way you debate. You have difficulty staying in one place, and it's really hard to hit a moving target. Honestly, you remind me of my older brother.

    I don't think anyone has said that 70% of his shots were contested jumpers. If they did, one look at the stats page I linked to would refute that claim. What has been said, and what I will say again in order to avoid the moving target thing, is that defended, unassisted jump shots are inefficient, and he shoots a large number of them. Reduce/eliminate them from his game, and his stats improve, and the team's efficiency improves. Pretty simple.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    BTW, you should know that if 70% of his total shots are long jumpers, that doesn't necessarily mean that 70% of his clutch shots are long jumpers. That's the kind of argument that severely undercuts your credibility in a debate.
     
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    No, because Dame takes that shot 1.3 times a game rather than 5.8 times a game (and, actually, shoots it at 50% now that I'm looking)!
     
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    Okay so let me get this straight.. No one is saying Aldridge hurts this team?

    And if that's true, then we are just asking him to stop taking the inconsistent jumper, but he is still carrying this team and winning clutch games?

    So we are just nitpicking?

    Okay gotcha!

    Btw, love us too...
     
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    Not talking about this here. Will pm.
     
  8. magnifier661

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    No I get it... This is a nitpick fest... I should of just ignored it then... Was a waste of time
     
  9. BrianFromWA

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    From 10-23' Dame is 27-60. That's 45% and an average of just under 3 of his 14.3 shots per game.
    From 10-23' LMA is 94-234. That's 40.3% and an average of 11.7 (61%) of his 19.3 shots per game.
     
  10. PtldPlatypus

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    No. People are saying that a certain aspect of his game is detrimental to the team. But that does not equate to saying that his presence as a whole is a detriment.

    And yes, I guess you could say that critiquing a 17-4 team qualifies as "nitpicking". Personally, I prefer to think of it as objective analysis from fans who want to see every conceivable roadblock to a championship addressed.
     
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    Yes very detrimental with a 17-4 record..
     
  12. PtldPlatypus

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    Reminds me of last December, when "22-4" was the constant reply to anyone bringing up concerns. A good record does not mean everything is working perfectly.
     
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    Yeah well it was detrimental to the Houston series too... How did that work?
     
  14. BrianFromWA

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    We put the ball in the hands of our most efficient player and he shot us to the second round?
     
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    I agree. Every team and every player can improve. Perennial championship contenders like the Spurs work on it every season.
     
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    Dude, if LA didn't come back early from his injury and we started winning again, we had a legit shot of actually missing the playoffs last year.

    The margin of error in the west is ridiculously tiny. Nitpicking or whatever you call it is warranted.
     
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    Wow that was a Kingspeed moment! Lol
     
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    I get it... But how about we nitpick the players that are "really" hurting this team?
     
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    Actually I could nitpick the shit out of the coach but in all good conscience I won't, since I am so pleased with the coaching in comparison to where we have been, I'll just grin for years yet.
     
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    Sinobas and MM get shot down a lot when they do that. :dunno: Some might say that Nic hurts us on his 9 shots a game, but his TS% is higher than LMA's (on his 19.1 shots). Some say that Dame shoots too much when he's cold (I, for one, have pointed out that he has 2 of the 50 worst-shooting games in history). But he's light-years ahead in TS% (59.9% to 46.7%).

    Our improved defense (a decent part of which goes to LMA) and our improved bench are helping us win games, where last year we had to rely on our offense (and specifically, our starting offense). But we've regressed on offense (10th in ppg, 6th in OEff)
     

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