Game Thread: Mavs @ Lakers (12/20)

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  1. joho5

    joho5 JBB JustBBall Member

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    not necessarilly, he shot the ball every time when he was in the game just about...he had 0 assists
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting joho5:</div><div class="quote_post">not necessarilly, he shot the ball every time when he was in the game just about...he had 0 assists</div>

    Kobe didn't need to pass. Dallas didn't force him to give up the ball. We had no trouble slowing down Wade. What makes Kobe so hard to guard is he is just as good shooting from 3 point range as he is going to the basket. The combination is lethal and dallas had no answer to it. Don't know why he wasn't double teamed. They should've had a plan on rotating and use double teams on Kobe.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting joho5:</div><div class="quote_post">not necessarilly, he shot the ball every time when he was in the game just about...he had 0 assists</div>

    If you knew anything about the game, scoring 62 points shooting .580 in just three quarters and your team winning by excess points, having no assists wouldn't really matter. Do you really expect the person who had scored the majority of the points to have most of the assists aswell? If he is scoring everything, he can't be assisting everything aswell. What do you want him to do, pass to himself and count it as an assist? [​IMG]

    Perhaps, if you knew anything about the game, you would realise this.
     
  4. joho5

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    im not going to say anymore...you dont get it, its ok. your team will not be a factor in the playoffs, dallas will...i guess basically that is all that matters. congrats to you and kobe on the win though.
     
  5. Trueballer

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    Kobe - One the Greats!

    Kobe is a great player and one of my favorites! Hard work, determination and a big heart to win every game he plays.

    My only concern with his game is that he is not improving every dimension of his game and not becoming a player who makes those around him better. Maybe that's not his goal or maybe he's maturing to that point. All I know is he scored 62 points and that his INCREDIBLE!!![​IMG] Trueballer for sure!!

    Assist definitely need to become a part of his portfolio when his shooting percentage is not that high in a game. Look back at MJ and Magic or even AI and you'll see that assists are always a part of their arsenal. It makes them a better player and those around them.

    Check the stats gentlemen.

    Sincerely,
    Trueballer

    LA LAKERS FAN FOREVER!!! THE ONLY TRUE DYNASTY!
     
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    By the way they did use double teams and traps but they didn't work - they exhausted their bench trying to stop him.
     
  7. Laker_fan

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting joho5:</div><div class="quote_post">im not going to say anymore...you dont get it, its ok. your team will not be a factor in the playoffs, dallas will...i guess basically that is all that matters. congrats to you and kobe on the win though.</div>

    Ok joHO5, you clearly haven't been here long, and the points you bring up make no sense. I'm not attacking anyone on here apart from you by saying this due to the things you've said. How far do you really think Dallas will go if they got beaten by the Lakers twice? Considering my team has a ballhog who has ruined the dynasty, how well do you think you will do if you can't beat the team with the crappy ballhogs?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trueballer:</div><div class="quote_post">By the way they did use double teams and traps but they didn't work - they exhausted their bench trying to stop him.</div>
    We never doubled Kobe, it's hard to double team Kobe when all his shots are 3's and fast break buckets, and doesnt miss. I love Kobe so I cant argue with you Lake Fans.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting samoan-maverick:</div><div class="quote_post">We never doubled Kobe, it's hard to double team Kobe when all his shots are 3's and fast break buckets, and doesnt miss. I love Kobe so I cant argue with you Lake Fans.</div>All treys? He only made 4. From the highlights I saw, a ton of his shots were 15 ft and in. And from what I saw, you guys were pouring doubles on him all night, he just split them and got the hoops. You guys helped him with your poor defense last night from what I saw.
     
  10. Theo41

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    Guys, let's leave personal discussions out of this. Attack the post, not the poster.

    Kobe burnnned us
     
  11. Shapecity

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    You think the 62 points Kobe dropped gets the Mavs interested in Artest at all?

    They add Artest they land a player who can guard the following players single handedly from the West:

    Kobe Bryant
    Manu Ginobili
    Tracy McGrady
    Jason Richardson
    Carmelo Anthony
    Corey Maggette (possibly Elton Brand as well)
    Shawn Marion (possibly Amare Stoudemire as well)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mavsfan1000:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe didn't need to pass. Dallas didn't force him to give up the ball. We had no trouble slowing down Wade. What makes Kobe so hard to guard is he is just as good shooting from 3 point range as he is going to the basket. The combination is lethal and dallas had no answer to it. <font color="Red">Don't know why he wasn't double teamed. They should've had a plan on rotating and use double teams on Kobe.</font></div>

    What?! I did not see the game... but almost half of the highlights I have seen had two, three, sometimes four Mavericks trying to stop him. It clearly made no difference to the man.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Fiyah:</div><div class="quote_post">What?! I did not see the game... but almost half of the highlights I have seen had two, three, sometimes four Mavericks trying to stop him. It clearly made no difference to the man.</div>

    Last night Kobe Bryant was double teamed, but he tried to make his move before the second player could disrupt his shot. So by the time the player rotated over Kobe was already getting his shot off. Also on some of his drives he exploded to the rim so the defenders couldn't take the right angle on him. He kept referring to the "direct line" in his post game interview. Rick Fox was encouraging him from the sidelines by saying the "direct line" was open.
     
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    The key to stopping Kobe is to shadow him. Keep him from getting the ball in the first place.
     
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    Lakers 112 Mavs 90 Grades: Mavs’ Vaunted New Defense Gets Beaned

    The Mavs’ defense is better this year. Everyone keeps telling us so. Of course, The Los Angeles Kobies have not read any of those news reports or espn op-ed pieces. The only period the Mavs won was the fourth, but there is no excitement there. Bean sat the entire fourth period since he had already outscored the hapless Mavs 62-61 at the end of three quarters. The Mavs would trail by as much as 35 points in this game. At the Mavs watch party I was at, a Cowboys wide receiver with the initials KJ, who I dare not name, made the ringing endorsement: “How ‘bout them Lakers!”. The good news is that this game is only 1 of 82, and is no more important than any of the other 81. The bad news is that when the Mavs play the Lakers again, all anyone will be able to talk about for weeks preceding the actual game is how the Mavs cannot overcome the psychological implosion of playing the Lakers. The Mavs will be having visions of Bean scoring in their dreams for the rest of their season.

    UPN 21 : A+; The Laker girls weren’t the only ones on fire tonight! +36

    Johnson: D-, Avery got fed up and left early. Too bad the rest of his team had already beat him to it.

    Howard: D- : Josh once upon a time was the Mavs best one-on-one defender. Tonight, however, Josh’s defense was quite offensive tonight. Josh ended the game with only one rebound and that was questionable, but no doubt the statistician felt guilty putting a goose egg down for Josh. Zero turnovers.

    Nowitzki: D, Kobe has long professed to having absolutely no respect for Dirk. Nothing changed tonight with Dirk receiving a black eye both figuratively and in reality. +20

    Dampier: D, Erick got outplayed tonight, but at least it was by the best center in the league, former Texas alumni Chris Mihm. +11

    Terry: D, Jason was hot behind the arc, nailing two treys tonight. Unfortunately for the Mavs, Jason kept taking shots inside the arc as well were Terry was ‘0-for’. +3

    Griffin: C; Adrian faced a serious problem. What does a ‘glue guy’ do when there is nothing to glue together? Zero turnovers. +10

    Van Horn: C, Keith chipped in 8 points and 6 rebounds but was 0-3 from behind the arc. Zero turnovers. +8

    Armstrong : C-; Darrell, normally a team sparkplug, couldn’t ignite the Mavs to stop Bean tonight. +4

    M’Benga: C+, Avery is getting more and more confidence in DJ, with DJ earning 9 minutes tonight. Six points (3-5 FG, 0-2 FT) and one steal. Zero turnovers. +3

    Powell: C; Josh got 7 minutes of floor time tonight for 3 points (0-2 FG, 3-4 FT), 4 rebounds and an assist. Zero turnovers. +5

    Daniels: C, Marquis returned from a neck sprain he suffered in the Suns game, but was clearly not any where near 100%. +8

    Diop: C, DeSagana picked up 5 fouls in 14 minutes, but maintained his effectiveness with blocking shots with 2 on the night. Zero turnovers. +2

    Harris: C; Devin played hard tonight but not exactly smart. Devin led the Mavs along with Dirk with 18 points, but Devin also led the Mavs with 5 turnovers. +10

    Marshall : DNP-CD.

    Podkolzin: DNC-CD, Pavel had surgery to repair his right foot and ankle and is expected to miss three months.

    Stackhouse: DNP-CD, Jerry was inactive, out with a sore knee.

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  16. joho5

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_fan:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok joHO5, you clearly haven't been here long, and the points you bring up make no sense. I'm not attacking anyone on here apart from you by saying this due to the things you've said. How far do you really think Dallas will go if they got beaten by the Lakers twice? Considering my team has a ballhog who has ruined the dynasty, how well do you think you will do if you can't beat the team with the crappy ballhogs?</div>

    i personally dont think the two or three times we play the lakers matters what we can or cant do in the playoffs...i was just stating the two teams in general in the playoffs. we beat houston last year with a crappy ballhog...we have improved this season, so thats the convincing data i tell myself daily on how we can do it. and no i havent been here all that long, but what does it matter? for you to think dallas doesnt have a legit team to contend with just because you dont like them is a bad point.
     

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