Game three Summer league game thread

Rick Kamla: "Shabazz Napier with the shoulder injury, started the game but not the second half. What can you tell us about that? Was it the bang ups at the end of the half?"

Olshey: "That's what happens when you run out at a guy running full speed with .3 on the clock, you get what you deserve. *Sarcastically* I guess he was afraid he was going to hit a half court runner?!"

Kamla: "Now Neil, hold on a second. Isaiah (Thomas) was saying that it was get back for the hard foul that Craft gave Napier before that."

Olshey: "I would have picked a better spot than when he was running full speed, I can tell you that. He's out for the rest of the game, shoulder sprain. But we will see how he's doing after the game, hopefully he's alright."

 

Looks like we play the Jazz again tomorrow. Elimination round, gotta come out hungry if they really want to set an impression for their commitment to success.

 

He's better. He has Claver's intangibles, with one very tangible benefit - he can shoot. Yes, he is struggling to adjust to the NBA 3-point distance, but that will come. At least he's knocking down his 2-point field goal attempts (shooting .667 from 2-point range). Layman has shown in three summer league games he is capable of doing something Claver was never able to do in three seasons in the NBA - consistently knock down an open shot.

BNM

 

I like what I've seen from Layman. Probably not ready to contribute much in the upcoming season, especially with the competition in his position, but he could make a good player in the league and looks a good pick at #47. I wonder though whether he'll be used as #3 or a stretch #4.

 

Has he? His shot looks good...like Claver, but hasn't really gone in very much....like Claver.

He's only 2-13 from 3pt. So not sure what you are referring to?

So far anyway

 

Claver should have been used as a PF. The same way we often use Aminu and Harkless. Layman I think is a more natural SF, a bit weaker inside player but better shooter. Either way Claver was/is a very good player that I think we could have made better use of.

 

He is shooting .364. What are you guys looking at?

This isn't meant to be a knock on Layman, I like him, but he hasn't shot the ball well AT ALL so far. Luis freaking Montero is shooting a better %

 

Remember Nic early in his rookie year and especially during Summer League?

The raw stats were shit and he looked like he couldn't hang at all, but he always knew where to be and what to do. And he was pretty mobile defensively.

That's kinda similar to what I see in Layman right now. The fundamentals and the tools are there, it just hasn't resulted in anything worthwhile. A lot of the summer league stats have to do with teammates. Nic struggled with a guy like Bayless on his team hogging the ball. Layman is working in a similar environment with Pat and Russ etc dribbling the ball for 15 seconds of every possession. (Still, no excuse for him missing so much from three).

Let's see this guy with the regular team in training camp-- I feel like he can play. Call it intuition. He runs and moves with purpose, and I love how quick his first step and jumps are. And that shooting stroke looks too good for him to be missing this poorly.

 

Not to mention Neil drafted him. Seemingly out of nowhere. Usually a good sign he's on to something.

 

He shot 50% yesterday from the field.

 

CONNAUGHTON FOR THE WIIIIINNNNNNN!!!!!!!



GOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man what a game!

 

Yes, he did. Not sure what that has to do with my statement though?

 

You said he's shooting 36.4% so I'm assuming you're talking about his overall shooting percentage, no?

 

Ya, for sure.

I was just responding to the people saying he can shoot better than Claver. He hasn't shown he can, so I was wondering what I may have been missing. Yes, outside of his 3 point shot, he shot well yesterday. This isn't to condemn him. I think he'll be good. Just hasn't really been the shooter a couple of posters said he has been....IMO anyway

 

I'm not saying this is only you MM, but why does "shooting" specifically mean three pointers in today's NBA?

 

LOL

 

Yeah but I think you are comparing Claver after 3 years in the NBA and Layman after 3 games. I liked Claver quite a bit and don't really think he got enough consistent minutes with the Blazers to get his confidence shooting the ball. But just from the eye ball test, Layman's outside shot seems a lot more effortless. Once he gets used to the extra 2 feet behind the 3 point point line, his box score will look better too.

But only time will tell for sure.

 

Read what I wrote. I said he's struggling with the longer NBA 3-point distance (2-13), but is making his 2-point FGs (6-9).

BNM

 

Maybe because that's the way the game is moving?
Statistics are too hard to break down by spot on the floor? Is there a site for that?
Honestly though, at this point I see no difference in them. Layman has played a total of three summer league games, so I am not saying Claver is his NBA spirit animal, just that he reminds me of him at this point. Smart, always in the right place, form on his shot looks great, ball doesn't seem to go in from distance