Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread I'll keep this thread through the playoffs at LEAST, until it overflows and I feel the need to start fresh.<u>GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft: Last Updated <span style="color:red">1/28/07</span></u><u>Round One</u>1) Oakland Raiders – JaMarcus Russell | Quarterback | L.S.U.2) Detroit Lions – Joe Thomas | Offensive Tackle | Wisconsin3) Cleveland Browns – Adrian Peterson | Running Back | Oklahoma 4) Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Calvin Johnson | Wide Receiver | Georgia Tech5) Arizona Cardinals – Gaines Adams | Defensive End | Clemson6) Washington Redskins – Alan Branch | Defensive Tackle | Michigan7) Minnesota Vikings – Jamaal Anderson | Defensive End | Arkansas8) Houston Texans – LaRon Landry | Safety | L.S.U. 9) Miami Dolphins – Brady Quinn | Quarterback | Notre Dame10) Atlanta Falcons – Reggie Nelson | Safety | Florida11) San Francisco 49ers – Amobi Okoye | Defensive Tackle | Louisville12) Buffalo Bills – Patrick Willis | Inside Linebacker | Ole Miss 13) St. Louis Rams – Lawrence Timmons | Outside Linebacker | Florida St.14) Carolina Panthers – Dwayne Jarrett | Wide Receiver | Southern Cal.15) Pittsburgh Steelers – Leon Hall | Cornerback | Michigan16) Green Bay Packers – Marshawn Lynch | Running Back | California17) Jacksonville Jaguars – Dwayne Bowe | Wide Receiver | L.S.U.18) Cincinnati Bengals – Adam Carriker | Defensive End | Nebraska19) Tennessee Titans – Ted Ginn Jr. | Wide Receiver | Ohio St.20) New York Giants – Darrelle Revis | Cornerback | Pittsburgh21) Denver Broncos – Justin Blalock | Offensive Guard | Texas22) Dallas Cowboys – Sidney Rice | Wide Receiver | South Carolina23) Kansas City Chiefs – DeMarcus Tyler | Defensive Tackle | N.C. State24) New England Patriots (f/SEA) – Michael Griffin | Safety | Texas25) New York Jets – Levi Brown | Offensive Tackle | Penn St.26) Philadelphia Eagles – Paul Posluzny | Outside Linebacker | Penn St. 27) New Orleans Saints – Chris Houston | Cornerback | Arkansas 28) New England Patriots – Buster Davis | Inside Linebacker | Florida St.29) Baltimore Ravens – Quentin Moses | Defensive End | Georgia30) San Diego Chargers – Eric Weddle | Safety | Utah31) Chicago Bears – Joe Staley | Offensive Tackle | Central Michigan32) Indianapolis Colts – Quinn Pitcock | Defensive Tackle | Ohio St.<u>Round Two:</u>33) Oakland Raiders – Robert Meachem | Wide Receiver | Tennessee34) Detroit Lions – Drew Stanton | Quarterback | Michigan St.35) Cleveland Browns – Arron Sears | Offensive Guard | Tennessee36) Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Victor Abiramiri | Defensive End | Notre Dame37) Arizona Cardinals – Tony Ugoh | Offensive Tackle | Arkansas 38) New York Jets (f/WAS) – Daymeion Hughes | Cornerback | California39) Minnesota Vikings – Anthony Gonzalez | Wide Receiver | Ohio St.40) Houston Texans – Kenny Irons | Running Back | Auburn41) Miami Dolphins – Jarvis Moss | Defensive End | Florida42) Atlanta Falcons – Michael Bush | Running Back | Louisville43) San Francisco 49ers – Aaron Ross | Cornerback | Texas44) Buffalo Bills – Tony Hunt | Running Back | Penn St. 45) St. Louis Rams – Justin Harrell | Defensive Tackle | Tennessee46) Carolina Panthers – Ben Grubbs | Offensive Guard | Auburn47) Pittsburgh Steelers – H.B. Blades | Inside Linebacker | Pittsburgh48) Green Bay Packers – Brandon Meriweather | Safety | Miami (FL)49) Jacksonville Jaguars – Anthony Spencer | Defensive End | Purdue 50) Cincinnati Bengals – John Wendling | Safety | Wyoming51) Tennessee Titans – LaMarr Woodley | Defensive End | Michigan 52) New York Giants – Jon Beason | Outside Linebacker | Miami (FL) 53) Denver Broncos – Charles Johnson | Defensive End | Georgia54) Dallas Cowboys – Eric Wright | Cornerback | UNLV55) Kansas City Chiefs – Ryan Harris | Offensive Tackle | Notre Dame56) Seattle Seahawks – Marshal Yanda | Offensive Guard | Iowa57) New York Jets – Ray McDonald | Defensive End | Florida58) Philadelphia Eagles – Brian Leonard | Running Back | Rutgers59) New Orleans Saints – Brandon Siler | Inside Linebacker | Florida60) New England Patriots – Craig Davis | Wide Receiver | L.S.U.61) Baltimore Ravens – Antonio Pittman | Running Back | Ohio St.62) San Diego Chargers – Ikaika Alama-Francis | Defensive End | Hawaii64) Chicago Bears – Zach Miller | Tight End | Arizona St.63) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (f/IND) – Rufus Alexander | Outside Linebacker | Alabama
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread Cleveland just signed Reuben Droughns to an extension last offseason I believe it was. I'm not sure why but for some reason they seem to love him and I see them drafting Joe Thomas in that spot because of it as they desperately need some O-lineman. Plus, I'm sure getting an O-lineman and Droughns taking the offseason to get healthy again would help his numbers next year. I think Adrian Peterson will fall all the way to #8 and the Houston Texans IMO as there isn't much need for a Runningback among those Top 7 teams, outside of the Raiders who will either take Calvin or Quinn...Your explanation is fine, but the Vikings desperately need a WR and I think would more likely reach then take Branch at 7. You're mock isn't accounting for the Stupidity of other GM's which is the #1 flaw of most mocks. I couldn't speak for Titans fans also, but I don't see a DT as a huge need personally. They have more pressing needs at especially WR/CB which I see them adressing first. McCauley is much more likely to end up in a Titans uniform and Dorsey in a Giants uniform then your way IMO.I still cant justify Alexander over Posluszny....Just like always, you know your stuff though. It's hard to find many points to disagree with you on. lol
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>6) Washington Redskins ? Leon Hall | Cornerback | Michigan</div>That would be pretty sweet (and probably the best choice), BUT... I'm 98% sure we will offer Nate Clements 480 billion a year for 5 years.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread Ginn Jr. Eh, your explination seemed right, and that didn't even include how bad our return game is, and how he'll help it out a lot, and whoever takes Curtis will probably need to give a first rounder for him, so we could fill a defensive need there too. But I strongly dislike OSU and Ginn's kicker facemask. But I still think I'd take him.And the Vikes would probably take Jarrett or Ginn if they were available at 7. Pat Williams may be old, but still has 2-3 years left, so they can fill that DT in another round or year.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread Alright, you don't get to watch 49ers games as much as I do, and that's fair as to why you picked that guy, he is a stud, but I am telling you this and I'd almost bet my life on it, if the 49ers pick a defender in the first round, it will not be a linebacker. That's our best asset on our defense, our LB's. Plus, we may sign Adalius Thomas from Baltimore this off-season, we have been rumored that we will give him a fat contract.Anyway, you have Jarrett going the pick after the 49ers. If he is there at the 49ers pick, they will take him. The 49ers have the playmaker TE, and yeah, he's a stud, but you still need the playmaker WR. Arnaz Battle is a possession WR, Brandon Williams hasn't shown anything so far(to his defense, he hasn't gotten much of a chance), and Antonio Bryant just isn't a #1 WR. He's a really good #2, but not #1. Plus, he gets into a lot of trouble outside of football, as he is still suspended for the first two games of the season next year. Also, I still don't agree that Marshawn Lynch will fall that far. Yeah, the Packers are down there, and he may go to the Packers, but he may be just as good as Adrian Peterson potential wise, and the fact that Peterson was hurt doesn't help the guy's cause.Also, I still don't agree that you don't have Daymeion Hughes in the 1st round, but I am never going to change your opinion about that, so I won't argue it anymore, because it isn't worth it.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread [quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='79558' date='Jan 1 2007, 06:41 AM']Cleveland just signed Reuben Droughns to an extension last offseason I believe it was. I'm not sure why but for some reason they seem to love him and I see them drafting Joe Thomas in that spot because of it as they desperately need some O-lineman. Plus, I'm sure getting an O-lineman and Droughns taking the offseason to get healthy again would help his numbers next year. I think Adrian Peterson will fall all the way to #8 and the Houston Texans IMO as there isn't much need for a Runningback among those Top 7 teams, outside of the Raiders who will either take Calvin or Quinn...[/quote]http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindeale...4000.xml&coll=2 I don't need that site to tell me that they need a running back, but just figured I'd show you that since I had just come across it an hour or two ago. Just letting you know that it is a priority. There's no doubt that they're offensive line could do better, but Kevin Shaffer was just brought in at left tackle and he's probably not a long-term option but definitely should be starting at least next season. Peterson gives them a stud at running back for years to come, and they really could use that huge offensive weapon that team's gameplan around. Well considering WR is a huge need for them, it kind of does account for GM stupidity. I know they need a WR desperately, but Brad Childress seems 100% sure that they won't be picking a WR in the first round. McCauley would definitely make sense there, but I think with Robaire Smith on his way out and Albert Haynesworth likely right behind them, they can use a nice young defensive tackle. Defensive end is probably their biggest need if you ask me, but corner isnt as big of a concern IMO after Pacman began playing like a top ten pick. That's just the fact that Alexander is the perfect fit for the cover-2 defense. I don't think the Colts can pass on him, even though they don't take linebackers in the first round. Thank you Jeff Ulbrich and Derek Smith are aging and declining. Lawson and Haralson, your young LBs, are OLBs; Willis would play inside. Even if Thomas is brought in (which I agree with, and I mentioned it in the mock), there's still a need inside, especially with no defensive backs on the board. I mean when you guys are bringing in TJ Slaughter, Hannibal Navies and Jay Foreman at LB.....But yeah, CB/S would be the pick if there was someone there worth picking. I think the whole "we need the playmaker WR" is more of your personal fantasy than a real team need..I know it would be nice to have that stud, playmaking receiver, but it's just not needed. Yes, Bryant can be upgraded, but Battle is solid if anything, Brandon Williams is up and coming and must be given a chance, and like you said, Vernon Davis is a stud and he's virtually your #1 receiver. Then don't forget about Gore and Michael Robinson. You guys are already loaded with offensive talent. Any suggestions on who would take him before Green Bay? You won't, but he may. If he runs a solid 40, he can definitely sneak into the late first.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread Childress should be fired on the spot if he drafts a defensive tackle.Childress should be fired on the spot if he drafts a defensive tackle.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>McCauley would definitely make sense there, but I think with Robaire Smith on his way out and Albert Haynesworth likely right behind them, they can use a nice young defensive tackle. Defensive end is probably their biggest need if you ask me, but corner isnt as big of a concern IMO after Pacman began playing like a top ten pick.</div>Tennessee had the 27th Ranked Pass Defense in the league. Over the second half of the season PacMan Jones wasn't the problem though as much as it was Renaldo Hill. A Defensive End would help also for getting a pass rush, but Cornerback and Wide Reciever are their largest needs right there and McCauley makes too much sense not to happen. I also don't think they plan on getting rid of Albert Haynesworth, he did his time on the Suspension, came back and played at a high level once he was back. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>but Brad Childress seems 100% sure that they won't be picking a WR in the first round.</div>Yes, because coaches have never downplayed an obvious need in the past. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I don't need that site to tell me that they need a running back, but just figured I'd show you that since I had just come across it an hour or two ago. Just letting you know that it is a priority. There's no doubt that they're offensive line could do better, but Kevin Shaffer was just brought in at left tackle and he's probably not a long-term option but definitely should be starting at least next season. Peterson gives them a stud at running back for years to come, and they really could use that huge offensive weapon that team's gameplan around.</div>I agree with you that they should look into a Runningback. But, I think Offensive Line is a more pressing need. Kevin Shaffer is supposed to be more of a Right Tackle, that was the kind of role he played with Atlanta as Michael Vick is a Left-Handed QB so the Right Side was the Blindside Tackle. Droughns is serviceable for another year as long as they draft a Joe Thomas type, or they could look to add a Kenny Irons type in the Early Second Round.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jan 1 2007, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tennessee had the 27th Ranked Pass Defense in the league. Over the second half of the season PacMan Jones wasn't the problem though as much as it was Renaldo Hill. A Defensive End would help also for getting a pass rush, but Cornerback and Wide Reciever are their largest needs right there and McCauley makes too much sense not to happen.I also don't think they plan on getting rid of Albert Haynesworth, he did his time on the Suspension, came back and played at a high level once he was back.</div>Haynesworth will be entering the final year of his contract, and Smith figures to be gone by then. You would hope some sort of help is brought in soon to plug up the middle. I can't argue against McCauley, but defensive tackle makes a whole lot of sense too.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, because coaches have never downplayed an obvious need in the past. </div>Maybe to hype up another player that someone else wants and then move down..But Childress is basically flat out saying "we WONT take a wide receiver." I don't see how that can be translated into coachspeak for anything.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I agree with you that they should look into a Runningback. But, I think Offensive Line is a more pressing need. Kevin Shaffer is supposed to be more of a Right Tackle, that was the kind of role he played with Atlanta as Michael Vick is a Left-Handed QB so the Right Side was the Blindside Tackle.Droughns is serviceable for another year as long as they draft a Joe Thomas type, or they could look to add a Kenny Irons type in the Early Second Round.</div>Wasn't Shaffer always at left tackle in Atlanta?And I would definitely think they'd prefer a Peterson/Arron Sears combo over Thomas and someone like Irons. Especially considering Irons isn't even guaranteed to be there when they pick in the second round. Peterson's talent and potential for greatness is just through the roof. Not to mention, the Browns could use interior linemen much more than a tackle. That would make Peterson in the first and someone like Beekman or Grubbs in the second a more realistic and smarter decision.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GaMeTiMe @ Jan 1 2007, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wasn't Shaffer always at left tackle in Atlanta?And I would definitely think they'd prefer a Peterson/Arron Sears combo over Thomas and someone like Irons. Especially considering Irons isn't even guaranteed to be there when they pick in the second round. Peterson's talent and potential for greatness is just through the roof. Not to mention, the Browns could use interior linemen much more than a tackle. That would make Peterson in the first and someone like Beekman or Grubbs in the second a more realistic and smarter decision.</div>Yes, he played Left Tackle in Atlanta. But he wasn't a Blindside Blocker in Atlanta because Michael Vick is a Left-Handed Quarterback, thus is faceing the Left Side of the Offensive Line. He was playing the role of the Traditional Right Tackle in the Left Tackle position.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread I can see the Houston Texans or even the Cleveland Browns taking Marshawn Lynch, especially if he has a really good camp.Also, do the Vikings need a RB?
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iknobaer @ Jan 1 2007, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can see the Houston Texans or even the Cleveland Browns taking Marshawn Lynch, especially if he has a really good camp.Also, do the Vikings need a RB?</div>So you're calling Lynch a better back than Peterson? There is 0, ZERO chance the Browns pick Lynch before Peterson.The Texans don't need a back as bad as they need a stud defensive back. I don't think Kubiak really minds using Taylor/Dayne/Lundy back there, and someone else may even be brought in later in the draft. I don't think they pass up Landry, Nelson, Revis or Branch to take Lynch.The Vikings can USE a back, but not there in the top 10. Taylor is a perfectly able starting running back, and a lot of his "struggles" this year can be attributed to a) inexperience in the offense and as an every-down back, and b ) the terrible right side of the line Minnesota is currently sporting. Not to mention, there isn't exactly a threat in the passing game on that team, so it wasn't as hard to control the run game.However Moore is a bit overrated, Fason looks to be a bust, and Pinner shouldn't really have much of a future on the team, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them grab a bruiser at some point in the draft.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GaMeTiMe @ Jan 3 2007, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iknobaer @ Jan 1 2007, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can see the Houston Texans or even the Cleveland Browns taking Marshawn Lynch, especially if he has a really good camp.Also, do the Vikings need a RB?</div>So you're calling Lynch a better back than Peterson? There is 0, ZERO chance the Browns pick Lynch before Peterson.The Texans don't need a back as bad as they need a stud defensive back. I don't think Kubiak really minds using Taylor/Dayne/Lundy back there, and someone else may even be brought in later in the draft. I don't think they pass up Landry, Nelson, Revis or Branch to take Lynch.The Vikings can USE a back, but not there. Taylor is a perfectly able starting running back, and a lot of his "struggles" this year can be attributed to a) inexperience in the offense and as an every-down back, and b ) the terrible right side of the line Minnesota is currently sporting. Not to mention, there isn't exactly a threat in the passing game on that team, so it wasn't as hard to control the run game. Moore is a bit overrated, Fason looks to be a bust, and Pinner shouldn't really have much of a future on the team, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them grab a bruiser at some point in the draft.</div>He's a Cal fan, don't mind him. :whistling:
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread Yeah, I know that Baer, once I release my two rounder, likely within a few weeks, you can see exactly where Hughes stands in my mind.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread Oh man Posuluzny to the Ravens.... that would be SICK. And I do agree that Ray Lewis won't be re-signed for the amount he wishes (I'm hearing his figure for extension is highest paid defensive PLAYER) which could mean he hits FA. I hope we can re-sign Adalius but if we bring in Posluzny to replace him, I'd take that.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Jan 1 2007, 08:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Cleveland just signed Reuben Droughns to an extension last offseason I believe it was. I'm not sure why but for some reason they seem to love him and I see them drafting Joe Thomas in that spot because of it as they desperately need some O-lineman. Plus, I'm sure getting an O-lineman and Droughns taking the offseason to get healthy again would help his numbers next year.</div>Good explanation and thanks AdropOfvenom.The offensive line is in shambles and I do not trust Ryan Tucker after his mental episode this season. Not only that, but he is aging. I would absolutely love the pick of Joe Thomas. I think he could start right away at LT and Shaffer could then make the transition to RT.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread Good 2nd round vikings pick.. I doubt Tank Tyler from NC state will go 2nd round though. That guy is a monster. The next Marcus Stroud or Pat Williams IMO.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread He'd definitely be a steal that late and may eventually replace Pitcock in the first. However his attitude and drive are both in question, so he's going to have to impress in workouts to make people forget that he may not be the best player on the field mentally/emotionally.The thing I love most about Tank is that even after Mario Williams and Manny Lawson were drafted, he played at a high level and has almost cemented himself as a top 50 pick in the draft. Really makes you wonder about Williams and Lawson and just how much credit you can give to one or the other for the two's success at NC State.
Re: GaMeTiMe's Mock Draft Thread <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GaMeTiMe @ Jan 7 2007, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Updated: Two rounds, after Wildcard Weekend.</div>I'm not sure on Jamaal Anderson as a DE, he might be too small for the 3-4 DE unless he bulks up for the Pro's . I'll reserve judgement until he weighs in at the Combine though. Id love the second round though, although id be torn between Grubbs and Staley in that spot. I dont agree with some of your second rounders though. Kenny Irons - Titans. Travis Henry, Lendale White, Chris BrownFred Bennett - Packers. Charles Woodson, Al HarrisGreg Olsen is too low, Brandon Meriweather and Arron Sears are too high IMO
