Gary Payton II Trade to the Warriors

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Sounds like he wont be playing again this season, but if he does it will be interesting to see the fan reaction on the final regular season game when we play the Warriors here at home on April 9th.
 
Someone more clever than me should make an account on a Warriors board under the name Toradol, and go just slightly over the top defending the Warriors and Blasting the Blazers, using dumb arguments of course.

Where is their forum
 
So Chris Haynes on his podcast with Marc Stein today said GS wants the league to investigate us because a similar situation arose with Larry Nance last year being injured during the trade with New Orleans.
 
Reality is that a hit piece purposefully dropped moments before the Blazers press conference where it accused Portland of basically forcing Payton to play and injecting him with the drug and that he'd be out around 3 months. I've highlighted the parts that have already changed for some reason.

You think that's an appropriate way, and time, for GS to communicate this?

The reality I see is that I watched Payton play 22 minutes the night before where he mugged and played around with GS. And that Portland has no history of forcing players to play injured. And no history of concealing medical information during trades.

The reality is also that none of the players on Portland have defended Payton, but one who was no longer even on the team went out of his way to defend the team and training staff.

And the reality is that the story had come out that Payton had been at odds with the team, and the evidence has accumulated significantly since then to substantiate this (see previous paragraph).

So now we've got Payton and Quick, who both have grudges against the Blazers, coming out strong with forced injections and 3 month recovery times and then GS, butt-hurt over 5 2nd round picks, asks for an investigation over glorified Ibuprofen to help their player save face and deflect attention to the changing allegations.

Did Golden State really ask the league to launch an investigation because Payton willfully took glorified Ibuprofen on occasion? A player who'd played 15 games on limited minutes as he came back from a longterm injury, and anyone with eyes could tell he was playing like a shell of himself compared to last year. Were they not watching? That was public information. Not to mention GPII keeps in touch with people on GS. The amount Payton runs his mouth and complains I'm sure they'd heard all about it. Unless Payton thought taking a pill here and there wasn't even worth bringing up. Maybe it's not thug enough for him which is why he went with the injections in his initial lie.


Yes they also said he'd be out 3 months. And now, since GS realized they walked themselves into a corner with the whole "3 month" accusation, decide it's really probably just a week or two before he can thug it out again.

Why would a timeline suddenly be changed so dramatically? Weren't they confident enough with that 3 month timeline to go to the press with it? I mean the article clearly said, "But the Warriors’ medical staff, according to sources, is saying he needs about three months to recover". That's reality right? That's what it says.

And don't you confirm a drug was fucking injected before you go to the media with it? What changed? If it had been the truth nothing would have changed.

With the timing and the accusations that have completely changed, GS, Payton and the athletic and of course Quick, look like sleazy sons of bitches, and parts of this whole thing look completely premeditated by some entities who have a grudge agains the Blazers.

was it Quick? I though it was Shams and the Warrior beat writer for the Athletic?
 
They apparently think its a pattern of misleading or withholding info in trade talks. And GS wants us to be punished for this.

They're coming to the realization that their window has closed and they just dumped their number two pick for nothing.
 
So Chris Haynes on his podcast with Marc Stein today said GS wants the league to investigate us because a similar situation arose with Larry Nance last yeat being injured during the trade with New Orleans.

how is it similar I'd wonder?

Payton started and played 22 minutes, AGAINST the Warriors, about 13 hours before the trade. Meanwhile Nance had been out for a full month before he was traded and there was no time-table for his return. The Pelicans knew what the situation was (just like the Warriors knew about Payton) well before the trade. Now, IIRC, Nance had a procedure done a couple of days after the trade....maybe that's what the Warriors are focused on

further, and I may be remembering this wrong, tthe reporting was that the Blazers and Pelicans had the framework of a deal in place for CJ and Cronin went back to the Pels and requested that Nance be added so the Blazers could increase their TPE. Pels said OK as long as Cronin could find a home for Satoransky, which he did

if Haynes is right, that sounds like the Warriors are desperately searching for cover. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the next reveal in this twisting, changing story is that the Blazers did list Toradol in the trade data
 
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They apparently think its a pattern of misleading or withholding info in trade talks. And GS wants us to be punished for this.

Golden State PUBLICLY SAYS they want us punished for that. It's ludicrous ... the Warrios have gotten religion and become Captain NBA all of a sudden.
 
how is it similar I'd wonder?

Payton started and played 22 minutes, AGAINST the Warriors, about 13 hours before the trade. Meanwhile Nance had been out for a full month before he was traded and there was no time-table for his return. The Pelicans knew what the situation was (just like the Warriors knew about Payton) well before the trade. Now, IIRC, Nance had a procedure done a couple of days after the trade....maybe that's what the Warriors are focused on

further, and I may be remembering this wrong, tthe reporting was that the Blazers and Pelicans had the framework of a deal in place for CJ and Corini went back to the Pels and requested that Nance be added so the Blazers could increase their TPE. Pels said OK as long as Cronin could find a home for Satoransky, which he did

if Haynes is right, that sounds like the Warriors are desperately searching for cover. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the next reveal in this twisting, changing story is that the Blazers did list Toradol in the trade data

I don't understand why they're so butthurt.
 
I don't understand why they're so butthurt.

I think they got worked over by Cronin. That's the primary reason.

They wanted Payton back and Payton wanted to be back there and it wasn't a secret. Cronin had leverage and when the Warrios got five 2R draft picks back, Cronin exercised that leverage.

Somewhere soon after that either someone with GS management or less likely Payton's camp leaked that he was playing hurt, and an embellished story got out from the Athletic beat writer to Shams, then Woj and then the world and took on a life of its own.

At that point, the Warrios try to walk things back and when it's apparent that the story's not just going to die, they double-down on a dramatically watered-down version -- after all, they know they're going to play Payton well before the playoffs. Anyway, the odds the NBA will penalize them for putting out a false story about another team is almost zero, so there's nothing for them to lose.

If the NBA says "no harm," GS can say "OK, we just wanted to be sure." It's a PR nightmare for them otherwise.
 
They didn't want it to look like they gave up more for an injured role player than they got for a recent No. 2 overall pick. They tried to put out a rationalization that they didn't realize how hurt Payton was, and I'd bet the high heavens that they were surprised the GS media, Shams and others saw an opportunity for a big story that didn't hurt anyone they really cared about to let their imaginations run wild with a story of the horrors of winning at all costs and the renegade Blazers and that Lillard certainly must consider leaving an organization that mistreats its own.

And, if anyone thinks that last line is tinfoil hat stuff, just read the Twitter threads on the 10th and 11th and you'll see a lot of regular fans and even some beat writers and podcasters for other teams saying exactly that.
 
So Chris Haynes on his podcast with Marc Stein today said GS wants the league to investigate us because a similar situation arose with Larry Nance last year being injured during the trade with New Orleans.

Hold on, Nance was inactive (read: injured) for almost a month before trade. WTF are they talking about?

"wait, an injury prone guy who missed the last month was injured!? THE HELL YOU SAY!"
 
Will be hilarious if this backfires and makes other teams hesitant to do business with the Warriors. Nobody likes a desperate little wannabe snitch.
 
I still think it would have been hilarious to reject Knox and void the trade and then watch Golden State end up losing millions on the luxury tax.
 
Haynes said GS is "distraught over this to the point of them wanting Portland to face a penalty even if it means they dont directly benefit."

Also, he said GP will be out for max a few weeks if that.

Gimme a break
If they were so "distraught", why not back out of the deal? It's just so much drama around absolutely nothing.
 
Warriors digging deep


I started to listen to it, but I quickly shut it off. They were trying to objectively give the reasons why the Warriors have filed a grievance and going into the half-assed-logic-backflips of the Warriors trying to hide their weak case behind the Nance trade

any attempt to objectively justify the Warriors position, in my mind at least, is tainted by the tsunami of bullshit, exaggeration, and lies that has flooded out of the bay Area in the past 90 hours. So, an attempt to hide behind a pretty obvious deflection about the Nance trade is the opposite of persuasive to me, instead it is just more confirmation that the Warriors are being big fucking spoiled babies.
 
can someone refresh my memory....did the Pelican front office register any complaints about Nance's condition?
This is the first I have heard anyone say anything about it. I’m not even sure why the warriors would care. They’re not privy to conversations between Portland and New Orleans.
 
can someone refresh my memory....did the Pelican front office register any complaints about Nance's condition?

I thought NOP was actually quite pleased with his addition. Weren't we bemoaning him getting healthy shortly after the trade, having been a throw-in that we overpaid for and gave up on prematurely?
 
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