Gary Payton II Trade to the Warriors

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by B-Roy, Feb 9, 2023.

  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    23,702
    Likes Received:
    36,257
    Trophy Points:
    113
  2. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,291
    Likes Received:
    5,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    Ed, I think some of us are bothered by it because of the slander/libel issues. Lies are told (forced Toradol injections), which are then never corrected. Those lies then become part of the narrative and reputational damage is done to this franchise.

    It is my strongest hope that we are working behind the scenes with the NBA to be as transparent as possible. After a thorough investigation, I hope a definitive statement is made regarding our actions, good or bad. My fear is they will find nothing, and the League Office won't issue a release clearing us of any of these allegations.
     
    RR7, BBert and PCmor7 like this.
  3. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2014
    Messages:
    7,773
    Likes Received:
    11,502
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Saying this for years
    Obviously GP2's injury occurred when he found out his love for the Warrios made him anathema in the Blazer locker room. They thought his feelings might take 3 months to heal.
     
  4. OneSport3

    OneSport3 The Knowledge Hoarder

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2009
    Messages:
    3,287
    Likes Received:
    5,696
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because Draymond is due for a new contract after this season. It's been speculated that they either don't want to resign him and use the video as justification to make him look like the bad guy or they want to lowball him on the next contract.
     
    illmatic99 likes this.
  5. HomerLovesKoolAid

    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2010
    Messages:
    7,352
    Likes Received:
    7,513
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If I was Jody I'd assemble the Vulcan legal team and start peeling the onion.
    Compel the authors of the first tweets alleging Blazer wrongdoings to reveal their sources (sauces) and go from there. If it tracks back to GP2 or GS front office......well, fuck em hard.
     
    rotary111 and Chris Craig like this.
  6. noknobs

    noknobs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    4,885
    Likes Received:
    6,235
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Could you elaborate on that? How so?
     
    Haakzilla likes this.
  7. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2022
    Messages:
    2,159
    Likes Received:
    2,235
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why would Silver be involved in this trade?

    The rest of your comment makes a lot of sense... except for Silver's involvement.
     
  8. Shaboid

    Shaboid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2014
    Messages:
    10,024
    Likes Received:
    13,156
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I bet he was only involved after the deadline had passed and they were trying to find some resolution. Sounds like Silver said, "sorry, the deadline has passed. We can do an investigation if you want, but you need to either accept or rescind the deal."
     
    rotary111 likes this.
  9. noknobs

    noknobs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    4,885
    Likes Received:
    6,235
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's interesting because Anthony Slater "covers the Warriors and NBA at large for The Athletic". And the comments section is almost entirely anti-Warriors front office. This mostly sums up the comments I read:
     
  10. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,291
    Likes Received:
    5,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    Just a reminder: GPII is listed on the Warriors' injury report as suffering from "Adductor soreness". To my knowledge the Warriors did not release the results of the GPII physical, they just said he failed it. So, we're left to fill in the blanks as to "why?" on our own. In light of those facts, let's please be clear about the "playing through injury" angle. We have zero evidence that GPII is actually injured. Sore? Okay. Not 100%? I'll buy it. Injured and being forced by us to put his career at risk by drugging up and playing? Not a chance.

    Sources close to the Warriors have stated that they never seriously considered rescinding the trade, and their first attempt was to try to claw back some of the trade compensation, so let's not pretend they're just fighting for Truth and Justice. They wanted GPII more than we wanted to let him go, so we (for once) got the better end of a trade deal. Compared to the Clippers and Pels who fleeced us, this trade marked one of the first times we clearly got the better end of a deal. GMs have egos, and it probably stings a little. The injury story was a convenient one, but it got out of hand. Now their only way out is to double down.
     
    RR7, HailBlazers, Haakzilla and 4 others like this.
  11. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,291
    Likes Received:
    5,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  12. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2014
    Messages:
    7,773
    Likes Received:
    11,502
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Saying this for years
  13. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,291
    Likes Received:
    5,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    Again, those were quotes from Chris Haynes. What I took from it was that after the trade deadline, GS still wanted to complete the deal, but not with the previously-agreed terms. They asked Silver to intervene and investigate their allegations. Again, that was just my read on it.
     
  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,748
    Likes Received:
    55,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Never heard of someone failing a physical because of soreness.
     
  15. OneSport3

    OneSport3 The Knowledge Hoarder

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2009
    Messages:
    3,287
    Likes Received:
    5,696
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Best line I’ve seen about this fiasco: The Warriors, now known as NBA Karen.
     
    RickyJoe, OR-84, blazerfan11 and 6 others like this.
  16. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2014
    Messages:
    7,773
    Likes Received:
    11,502
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Saying this for years
    Myers getting dragged pretty hard. Basically, comments are going everywhere from saying GS is making this up to being petty to Myers and his staff were borderline incompetent for not doing their own due diligence and now are trying to blame it in the Blazers.

    Brutal.

    Brutal ... and also 100% spot on.
     
    Fairly-Hard, BBert and Natebishop3 like this.
  17. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2014
    Messages:
    7,773
    Likes Received:
    11,502
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Saying this for years
    This presser might be one of the biggest things going for the Blazers in this whole abomination.

    I almost typed "abdomenation."
     
  18. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,060
    Likes Received:
    35,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
  19. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,060
    Likes Received:
    35,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just wondering if anyone else wants to try to defend GSW after what their moronic GM just admitted to.

    Anyone? Thought so.
     
  20. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    58,580
    Likes Received:
    58,890
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Actually, the Blazers signed him. It wasn't a trade, but sure.
     

Share This Page