Sly, you seem to be ignoring the CBA. If you give him the minimum you can only sign him to two years. If he's good then he'd get a big payday in year 3. If you pay more than the minimum you can sign him for 3 years. It's a little bit of a risk but you are banking on him being a steal in year 3 instead of a free agent. This is actually super common with 2nd round picks now.
Gary has obviously impressed everyone at practice already...every player interviewed singled him out as a player...I think they want him for 3 years and will play him..Simons is not developed yet...although in the future Simons may become a special talent.
Is there a set amount or percentage beyond the minimum that we have to pay him to keep him for 3 years? I don't recall Jake Layman getting this kind of cheddar and this will be his 3rd year for the team.
It definitely seems like trend that NO likes to give 3 year contract to his second rounders but at a lower. Barton, Crabbe, Pat, Layman, Trent Jr. But they are all pretty high second rounders so maybe he see value in these guys and want to give them 3 years to see what they have.
True it needed to be 3 years to gain the RFA status, and they had to use part of the MLE to do that... However, years 2 & 3 did not have to be guaranteed & his salary did not have to be higher than the other 1st round picks.
You're misreading those numbers. Simons is making over 1.5x as much per season (on average) as Trent Jr. Simons $3,985,080 is over two seasons. That's an average of $1,992,540 per season. Trent's $3,919,177 is over 3 seasons. That's an average of $1,306,392. So, Simons is making an average of 52% more per season. Trent is locked in for the 3rd year at that rate. If the Blazers pick up the 3rd year team option on Simons, he will make will be $2,232,720 in his 3rd year. Simons' 4th year team option of $3,905,027 will be nearly as much as Trent's entire 3-year contract. I swear sometimes people around here are just looking for something to bitch about. The headline of that article could have been better written (Trail Blazers second-rounder Gary Trent Jr. to receive higher salary guarantee than six first-rounders), but it did include the word guarantee, and if you actually read the article it's clear they are comparing 3 years salary for Trent to 2 years salary for everyone else. BNM
Nope. Just have to use part of the MLE instead of the Minimum Exception. You can still pay a player the 'minimum' and still use part of the MLE so that they can get the 3rd year.
I read it and it still seems like we're overpaying for him. I know it's not much on the grand scheme of things but it's a pattern with Olshey.
No, we didn't. The Taxpayer MLE is $5,337,000. I don't know what Trent's starting salary is, but the average over the next three seasons is $1,306, 392. That's not even close to "most of our MLE". Worst case, it's still less than 1/4 of our MLE. Learn the math, then post! BNM
I think it was a good signing. If he's even an average backup in year three, that will have been a steal, and we can resign him. If not, that amount is a drop in the bucket.
No, it doesn't seem that way. To me, it looks an awful lot like a minimum contract. Here are the current min player salaries based on years of NBA experience: Years of Experience Salary 0 $838,464 1 $1,349,383 2 $1,512,601 3 $1,567,007 4 $1,621,415 5 $1,757,429 6 $1,893,447 7 $2,029,463 8 $2,165,481 9 $2,176,260 10+ $2,393,887 If you add the first three years you get a total of $3,696,448 over three years. That's slightly less than the rumored Trent signing of $3,919,177, but keep in mind those mins are based on the 2018-19 salary cap and are expected to go up each year. I suspect what the Blazers actually gave Trent is a min contract based on the latest salary cap projections for the next three seasons. How is giving someone an min contract overpaying them (Meyers Leonard excluded)? You can quibble about the 3rd year, but without it, we lose his Bird rights. BNM
You obviously can’t do math because with Trent and Seth salary it leaves next to nothing for MLE, not to mention we have 16 players already... Neil isn’t doing shit, he is a coward like I have been saying... scared to make a big trade because he knows most fans have low standards and will buy tickets regardless
LMAO, of all the things you could go off about this summer it's the use of the tax-MLE? You blow up about Curry's deal only being 1 year and now you are complaining that Olshey locked in someone for 3 years, thus making him a RFA with Bird Rights?
