Gators sophomores say they will return to Gainesville

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    I kinda figured Noah, Horford, and Brewer would all return to college, because their families are fairly wealthy already, and I can bet that they were probably advised to return to college and get their degree...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't say that you guys didn't have the best chemistry. I just said that it's too subjective to argue, and next year is a completely different story.

    You guys won the tournament by beating the teams placed infront of you, not because you were the most talented or had the best chemistry or anything like that. One bad game, and your team is out of the tournament, but that doesn't mean that teams like Duke that had great chemistry all year long were inferior just because they lost that one game. I don't know anyone who'd unbiasedly take Florida over Duke.</div>

    Why would anyone take Duke over Florida? Brewer has proven his ability to shutdown big time players and Redick would get his points, but he won't ever be comfortable with a lanky 6'8 guy that was co-DPOY in the SEC chasing him all over the place. If Garrett Temple stopped him, then Brewer could, should, and would. Horford/Noah would be able to contain Shelden and McRoberts. Green would tear Paulus up. Dockery would shutdown Humphrey though. Neither team is very deep. We match up very good with them and I said that the entire year, I was really hoping to face them on a neutral court with neutral refs.

    Dude if all the games were close, I could see your argument, but we completely DOMINATED everyone that we were put up against(other than Georgetown). If we barely squeaked by like the George Mason's and South Alabama's and UW-Milwaukee's then you can go on and say that we weren't the best team, but we completely hammered everyone(other than Gtown). There was only one game that was in doubt with about 15 mins left in the 2nd half.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting UKFan33:</div><div class="quote_post">I kinda figured Noah, Horford, and Brewer would all return to college, because their families are fairly wealthy already, and I can bet that they were probably advised to return to college and get their degree...</div>

    Brewer's dad is really sick and could die at any time. His dream has always been to see Corey play in the NBA. Corey is still going to comeback, that's how much these kids mean to each other. He'll be a lotto pick next year though and will leave then.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">Why would anyone take Duke over Florida? Brewer has proven his ability to shutdown big time players and Redick would get his points, but he won't ever be comfortable with a lanky 6'8 guy that was co-DPOY in the SEC chasing him all over the place. If Temple stopped him, then Brewer could, should, and would. Horford/Noah would be able to contain Shelden and McRoberts. Green would tear Paulus up. Dockery would shutdown Humphrey though. Neither team is very deep. We match up very good with them and I said that the entire year, I was really hoping to face them on a neutral court with neutral refs.

    Dude if all the games were close, I could see your argument, but we completely DOMINATED everyone that we were put up against(other than Georgetown). If we barely squeaked by like the George Mason's and South Alabama's and UW-Milwaukee's then you can go on and say that we weren't the best team, but we completely hammered everyone(other than Gtown). There was only one game that was in doubt with about 15 mins left in the 2nd half.
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    I love how J.J. Redick ends the season on a bad note against LSU, and all of a sudden all you need to do to stop Duke is to "put an athletic defender on Redick". Don't you wish it was that simple? He's made a season of putting 25+, 30+, and even 40+ points on so-called "athletic defenders". You also forgot to mention how Shelden Williams had 23 points, 13 rebounds, and 4 blocks to make up for Redick's off night. I'm sorry, but the whole team doesn't revolve around Redick; the Landlord is just as important if not more, and you're really over simplifying it by saying that Noah/Horford would "contain" Williams and McRoberts. In all but one of the Gators losses this season, they were outrebounded by the opposition. Clearly, the Gators have problems against better rebounding opponents, and Williams happens to be one of the best rebounders in the nation. Teams like North Carolina couldn't hold him under fifteen boards, Maryland couldn't hold him under a triple double, what makes you think the Gators froncourt is like nothing they've ever seen before? Don't let Joakim Noah's tournament performance mislead you to believe that he's the best big man in the nation either. The kid doesn't even compare to Williams yet. Maybe he's a better NBA prospect, but while we're talking college ball, it's not even close.

    As for your "dominating" tournament performance, so what? I know I said I wouldn't fault the Gators for playing an "easy road" to the Final Four, but if you want to get into comparing it to past title runs and call it "dominating", I've got to bring up the fact that you've played teams who you should have dominated. What a coincidence, the one team you didn't dominate, Georgetown, was one of only three ranked teams you had to play in your route to the title. Want to know a dominating tournament performance? Look back to the last time you guys were in the finals, 2000. Michigan State won their opening game against Valpo by 27, beat Utah in the next round by 12, beat Syracuse in the Sweet 16 by 17, beat the #5 ranked Iowa State Cyclones in the Elite 8 by 11, then won their two Final Four games by an average of 12.5 points.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">I love how J.J. Redick ends the season on a bad note against LSU, and all of a sudden all you need to do to stop Duke is to "put an athletic defender on Redick". Don't you wish it was that simple? He's made a season of putting 25+, 30+, and even 40+ points on so-called "athletic defenders". You also forgot to mention how Shelden Williams had 23 points, 13 rebounds, and 4 blocks to make up for Redick's off night. I'm sorry, but the whole team doesn't revolve around Redick; the Landlord is just as important if not more, and you're really over simplifying it by saying that Noah/Horford would "contain" Williams and McRoberts. In all but one of the Gators losses this season, they were outrebounded by the opposition. Clearly, the Gators have problems against better rebounding opponents, and Williams happens to be one of the best rebounders in the nation. Teams like North Carolina couldn't hold him under fifteen boards, Maryland couldn't hold him under a triple double, what makes you think the Gators froncourt is like nothing they've ever seen before? Don't let Joakim Noah's tournament performance mislead you to believe that he's the best big man in the nation either. The kid doesn't even compare to Williams yet. Maybe he's a better NBA prospect, but while we're talking college ball, it's not even close.

    As for your "dominating" tournament performance, so what? I know I said I wouldn't fault the Gators for playing an "easy road" to the Final Four, but if you want to get into comparing it to past title runs and call it "dominating", I've got to bring up the fact that you've played teams who you should have dominated. What a coincidence, the one team you didn't dominate, Georgetown, was one of only three ranked teams you had to play in your route to the title. Want to know a dominating tournament performance? Look back to the last time you guys were in the finals, 2000. Michigan State won their opening game against Valpo by 27, beat Utah in the next round by 12, beat Syracuse in the Sweet 16 by 17, beat the #5 ranked Iowa State Cyclones in the Elite 8 by 11, then won their two Final Four games by an average of 12.5 points.</div>

    Brewer is 6'8 athletic, great through screens and was co-DPOY. He made Affalo look like crap in the championship game and he had been doing that all season long. He's long and lanky and would have a 4 inch size difference on Redick. He's quick enough to not let Redick by and athletic enough to challenge every shot. Garrett Temple is no where near a good defender as Brewer. Temple let Redick get by a couple of times, but Tyrus Thomas was there, well the Gators have 2 great shot blockers(set the record for most combined blocks in our schools history) and Noah set the record for most blocks in the entire tournament.

    Other teams get rebounds on us, because we force them deep into the shot clock and taking bad shots(normally behind 3 pt range), which normally means long rebounds. We had been a much better rebounding team in the tournaments as well. We were playing more man then zone(we got hammered on the glass in zone in the regular season). Shelden Williams is a great player for sure, but Horford is also a very good AND UNDERRATED defender. Noah gets all the pub, but it was Horford who was always against the other teams best offensive player. I think we match up well enough to contain both of them. (they both will get their 15-20 pts, but they will be a tough 15-20 pts) and I don't know if their role players can step up to the challenge.

    btw, I'm assuming when we do these hypothetical games, we are doing them in the tournament, so NOah's great tourney performance would still be on the line when Noah has been playing amazing basketball.

    Maybe MSU was dominate, but they beat a 5 seed in the championship game, which undermines their dominance [​IMG] . Also if they were a #1 seed, they SHOULD have dominated everyone? The Gators played 2 teams with higher seeds and we beat them by an avg of 13.5 pts and neither score truly shows how much we dominated. The difference between them was THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOMINATE. We weren't. We just kinda came out of nowhere, which makes how dominate we were even more of a shock and more impressive.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">Brewer is 6'8 athletic, great through screens and was co-DPOY. He made Affalo look like crap in the championship game and he had been doing that all season long. He's long and lanky and would have a 4 inch size difference on Redick. He's quick enough to not let Redick by and athletic enough to challenge every shot. Garrett Temple is no where near a good defender as Brewer. Temple let Redick get by a couple of times, but Tyrus Thomas was there, well the Gators have 2 great shot blockers(set the record for most combined blocks in our schools history) and Noah set the record for most blocks in the entire tournament.

    Other teams get rebounds on us, because we force them deep into the shot clock and taking bad shots(normally behind 3 pt range), which normally means long rebounds. We had been a much better rebounding team in the tournaments as well. We were playing more man then zone(we got hammered on the glass in zone in the regular season). Shelden Williams is a great player for sure, but Horford is also a very good AND UNDERRATED defender. Noah gets all the pub, but it was Horford who was always against the other teams best offensive player. I think we match up well enough to contain both of them. (they both will get their 15-20 pts, but they will be a tough 15-20 pts) and I don't know if their role players can step up to the challenge.

    btw, I'm assuming when we do these hypothetical games, we are doing them in the tournament, so NOah's great tourney performance would still be on the line when Noah has been playing amazing basketball.

    Maybe MSU was dominate, but they beat a 5 seed in the championship game, which undermines their dominance [​IMG] . Also if they were a #1 seed, they SHOULD have dominated everyone? The Gators played 2 teams with higher seeds and we beat them by an avg of 13.5 pts and neither score truly shows how much we dominated. The difference between them was THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOMINATE. We weren't. We just kinda came out of nowhere, which makes how dominate we were even more of a shock and more impressive.</div>

    You don't have to tell me about Corey Brewer, Gators. You know I've been watching him play since he was in high school back in Portland, back in the Dane Bradshaw days of Tennessee HS ball. I know more about his game than I know about most players on Michigan State. Still, the fact of the matter is that J.J. Redick has seen better defenders. He's seen more athletic defenders. He's seen taller defenders. He's been schooling his defenders in all kinds of shapes and sizes for four years. Corey Brewer is not like something he's never seen before. Don't let one off game mislead you into thinking that Redick would be "shut down" against Florida. It wouldn't happen. Yes, Brewer is quicker, but you're forgetting that Redick's probably the best in the nation at using screens. Would Florida hedge or switch on a Duke pick? Either way, it'd leave Redick away from Brewer long enough to get a shot off. Ever think of that?

    Two things about your rebounding. First, you don't want to force Duke to shoot the three ball, especially with Redick. Secondly, it's not just the long rebounds that have killed you. How about the Alabama loss where Davidson and Hendrix combined for 27 rebounds to Horford's 9 and Noah's 4? And no matter how underrated you think Horford's defense, which it really isn't, you're comparing him to Shelden Williams, the most dominant big man in the game. The advantage obviously goes to Duke on the inside.

    We're not saying this hypothetical matchup is in the tournament. It's just a game. And while Noah may have had a good tournament showing, did he play any bigs close to the talent level of Shelden Williams? Not from what I saw...

    How the hell do you figure that playing a #5 seed in the title game undermines Michigan State's dominance of the 2000 tournament? That's nothing like you guys playing a #11 seed in the Final Four. Up until the Final Four, Michigan State played the highest possible seeds in their route to the title: a #16, a #8, a #4, and a #2. I don't know how you can say they had an easy road. Yes, we were supposed to dominate, because we were the #1 team all season long, but the difference between us being "supposed to dominate" and Florida playing teams they were "supposed to dominate" is that the reason we were supposed to dominate was our talent, whereas the reason you were supposed to dominate was the other team's lack of talent.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">You don't have to tell me about Corey Brewer, Gators. You know I've been watching him play since he was in high school back in Portland, back in the Dane Bradshaw days of Tennessee HS ball. I know more about his game than I know about most players on Michigan State. Still, the fact of the matter is that J.J. Redick has seen better defenders. He's seen more athletic defenders. He's seen taller defenders. He's been schooling his defenders in all kinds of shapes and sizes for four years. Corey Brewer is not like something he's never seen before. Don't let one off game mislead you into thinking that Redick would be "shut down" against Florida. It wouldn't happen. Yes, Brewer is quicker, but you're forgetting that Redick's probably the best in the nation at using screens. Would Florida hedge or switch on a Duke pick? Either way, it'd leave Redick away from Brewer long enough to get a shot off. Ever think of that?

    Two things about your rebounding. First, you don't want to force Duke to shoot the three ball, especially with Redick. Secondly, it's not just the long rebounds that have killed you. How about the Alabama loss where Davidson and Hendrix combined for 27 rebounds to Horford's 9 and Noah's 4? And no matter how underrated you think Horford's defense, which it really isn't, you're comparing him to Shelden Williams, the most dominant big man in the game. The advantage obviously goes to Duke on the inside.

    We're not saying this hypothetical matchup is in the tournament. It's just a game. And while Noah may have had a good tournament showing, did he play any bigs close to the talent level of Shelden Williams? Not from what I saw...

    How the hell do you figure that playing a #5 seed in the title game undermines Michigan State's dominance of the 2000 tournament? That's nothing like you guys playing a #11 seed in the Final Four. Up until the Final Four, Michigan State played the highest possible seeds in their route to the title: a #16, a #8, a #4, and a #2. I don't know how you can say they had an easy road. Yes, we were supposed to dominate, because we were the #1 team all season long, but the difference between us being "supposed to dominate" and Florida playing teams they were "supposed to dominate" is that the reason we were supposed to dominate was our talent, whereas the reason you were supposed to dominate was the other team's lack of talent.</div>

    First of all I never said Redick would be "shut down". I said he will get his points, but they will be tough points and that he won't get comfortable. So you don't think Horford's defense is good at all? They never mention Horford's D, so I guess it's just average then. It's nothing special. He's got great defense and Noah gets all the attention. There is a reason why Billy D puts HOrford on the best big man no matter how much size he gives up.(5 inches on HIbbert) Noah would not guard SHelden Williams, so I'm not sure why you added him in there, unless you think Duke would put Shelden on Noah and HOrford would tear up McRoberts inside. Horford would guard Williams. I would still give UF the advantage on the inside because I would take Horford/Noah/Richard/Moss over WIlliams/McRoberts/Melchionni. Wings the advantage is obviously to Duke and PG would be the Gators. We have one of the best perimeter defenses in the nation(well in the last 6 games at least)

    So now Georgetown, Villanova, and UCLA has less talent then us? Then why did everyone pick them to beat us? Why did no one give us a chance if all of a sudden we are more talented then them.

    I hope everyone hates us again, that will just fuel the fire and in a year you will be seeing Noah hoisting the trophy and doing the Gator chomp in celebration again. You don't want to give these kids a chip on their shoulder, because they will make you pay.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">First of all I never said Redick would be "shut down". I said he will get his points, but they will be tough points and that he won't get comfortable. So you don't think Horford's defense is good at all? They never mention Horford's D, so I guess it's just average then. It's nothing special. He's got great defense and Noah gets all the attention. There is a reason why Billy D puts HOrford on the best big man no matter how much size he gives up.(5 inches on HIbbert) Noah would not guard SHelden Williams, so I'm not sure why you added him in there, unless you think Duke would put Shelden on Noah and HOrford would tear up McRoberts inside. Horford would guard Williams. I would still give UF the advantage on the inside because I would take Horford/Noah/Richard/Moss over WIlliams/McRoberts/Melchionni. Wings the advantage is obviously to Duke and PG would be the Gators. We have one of the best perimeter defenses in the nation(well in the last 6 games at least)

    So now Georgetown, Villanova, and UCLA has less talent then us? Then why did everyone pick them to beat us? Why did no one give us a chance if all of a sudden we are more talented then them.

    I hope everyone hates us again, that will just fuel the fire and in a year you will be seeing Noah hoisting the trophy and doing the Gator chomp in celebration again. You don't want to give these kids a chip on their shoulder, because they will make you pay.</div>

    I never said Horford wasn't good on defense. I never even implied that. I just said that no one was underrating his defense. Of course Horford is usually put on the opposing team's offensive weapon, because he's got the size advantage. No, he's not as long as Joakim Noah, but Noah is a twig. He'd get outmuscled and outpositioned by a true center. He just doesn't have the body Horford has. By the way, who doesn't give up five inches to Hibbert? He's a 7-2 freak. Even Noah would give up three or more inches to Hibbert. And why would you take Horford, Noah, Richard, and Moss over Williams, McRoberts, and Melchionni? That's a less talented fronline, and a smaller frontline. Yes, they've got the advantage of depth (and that's about it) but what good is that when Williams and McRoberts play nearly the whole game? And who cares how Redick gets his points? You think all his points this season were "easy points"? Of course not. When teams play Duke, they focussed their defense completely on Redick, double and even triple teaming the kid. Guess what, he still lights them up. You still didn't answer my question about screens either. How's Brewer going to defend that? Also, you can't just simplify this game into player by player comparison. It doesn't matter if Green is better than Paulus. You don't think that most of the teams Duke played this season had a better point guard than Paulus? Unlike Florida, they actually went out on a limb and played a great nonconference schedule, and it didn't really seem to matter that they were outmatched at the point in any of those games, because at the end of the day, their opponents just couldn't shut down Redick or score on the Landlord. No matter how you slice it, Duke will have the advantage as long as Redick and Williams are still in uniform.

    I also never said that Georgetown, UCLA, and Villanova have less talent than Florida. However, South Alabama, George Mason, and UW-Milwaukee all have ridiculously less talent than Florida. You have to beat six teams in order to win the title, and three of the teams Florida played were expected to be easy landslide victories for them. That's not very comparable to Michigan State's dominating tournament run, in which they played all the highest seeds possible up until the Final Four.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">I never said Horford wasn't good on defense. I never even implied that. I just said that no one was underrating his defense. Of course Horford is usually put on the opposing team's offensive weapon, because he's got the size advantage. No, he's not as long as Joakim Noah, but Noah is a twig. He'd get outmuscled and outpositioned by a true center. He just doesn't have the body Horford has. By the way, who doesn't give up five inches to Hibbert? He's a 7-2 freak. Even Noah would give up three or more inches to Hibbert. And why would you take Horford, Noah, Richard, and Moss over Williams, McRoberts, and Melchionni? That's a less talented fronline, and a smaller frontline. Yes, they've got the advantage of depth (and that's about it) but what good is that when Williams and McRoberts play nearly the whole game? And who cares how Redick gets his points? You think all his points this season were "easy points"? Of course not. When teams play Duke, they focussed their defense completely on Redick, double and even triple teaming the kid. Guess what, he still lights them up. You still didn't answer my question about screens either. How's Brewer going to defend that? Also, you can't just simplify this game into player by player comparison. It doesn't matter if Green is better than Paulus. You don't think that most of the teams Duke played this season had a better point guard than Paulus? Unlike Florida, they actually went out on a limb and played a great nonconference schedule, and it didn't really seem to matter that they were outmatched at the point in any of those games, because at the end of the day, their opponents just couldn't shut down Redick or score on the Landlord. No matter how you slice it, Duke will have the advantage as long as Redick and Williams are still in uniform.

    I also never said that Georgetown, UCLA, and Villanova have less talent than Florida. However, South Alabama, George Mason, and UW-Milwaukee all have ridiculously less talent than Florida. You have to beat six teams in order to win the title, and three of the teams Florida played were expected to be easy landslide victories for them. That's not very comparable to Michigan State's dominating tournament run, in which they played all the highest seeds possible up until the Final Four.</div>


    I've continously said that Redick would get his 15-20 pts on Brewer, but he will have to work harder and shoot more to get those points and throw him out of his gameplan. He will get his 15-20 pts pretty much every game, it's just trying to make sure that he doesn't go off on you. Brewer has been solid around screens so far, he's not lights out, but he's got the length and athleticism to get back in the play if he gets knocked off by a screen. He's made so many amazing plays because of his length that I thought that he was completely burned on after he overpursued or ran above or under the screen the wrong way and made up for it by disrupting or blocking the shot.

    I would take Shelden over Horford, Noah over McRoberts, Richard over Melchionni, and Moss over nothing(tough call though).


    Well this is pointless to argue about something that will never happen. I was just saying that Duke was the #1 that I think we had the best chance against.

    Dude I keep telling you man, our schedule looked tough early on in the season(who woulda predicted Syracuse and Wake to be as bad as they were-remember Syracuse was bubble until the Big East tourney). We had our instate rivals who both were supposed to be better and compete to get into the tourney. For a team full of sophs without a lot of experience you don't want to load up the schedule and risk losing their confidence. I love the job that Billy D did on our schedule this year to give us confidence while playing some tough games. The only thing I would have done was not schedule Morgan and Savannah States, I woulda scheduled a better cupcake. Now after saying that, Billy D better bring some big time program to the Odome this year and we better play a couple of ranked teams in the OOC.

    Sorry there is much more parity this year then 00 that all the higher seeds didn't advance and there were a lot of upsets. We beat our 6 teams very very very convincingly and won the national championship against according to most analysts(well excluding the ESPN guys in the championship game) that we would lose at least 4 of the games. (I believe BIlly Packer had us losing to UW-Milwaukee). The ESPN guy all picked us to win the championship, but everyone else picked UCLA. Why did you bring up MSU anyway in this thread? We did dominate everyone.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">I've continously said that Redick would get his 15-20 pts on Brewer, but he will have to work harder and shoot more to get those points and throw him out of his gameplan. He will get his 15-20 pts pretty much every game, it's just trying to make sure that he doesn't go off on you. Brewer has been solid around screens so far, he's not lights out, but he's got the length and athleticism to get back in the play if he gets knocked off by a screen. He's made so many amazing plays because of his length that I thought that he was completely burned on after he overpursued or ran above or under the screen the wrong way and made up for it by disrupting or blocking the shot.

    I would take Shelden over Horford, Noah over McRoberts, Richard over Melchionni, and Moss over nothing(tough call though).


    Well this is pointless to argue about something that will never happen. I was just saying that Duke was the #1 that I think we had the best chance against.

    Dude I keep telling you man, our schedule looked tough early on in the season(who woulda predicted Syracuse and Wake to be as bad as they were-remember Syracuse was bubble until the Big East tourney). We had our instate rivals who both were supposed to be better and compete to get into the tourney. For a team full of sophs without a lot of experience you don't want to load up the schedule and risk losing their confidence. I love the job that Billy D did on our schedule this year to give us confidence while playing some tough games. The only thing I would have done was not schedule Morgan and Savannah States, I woulda scheduled a better cupcake. Now after saying that, Billy D better bring some big time program to the Odome this year and we better play a couple of ranked teams in the OOC.

    Sorry there is much more parity this year then 00 that all the higher seeds didn't advance and there were a lot of upsets. We beat our 6 teams very very very convincingly and won the national championship against according to most analysts(well excluding the ESPN guys in the championship game) that we would lose at least 4 of the games. (I believe BIlly Packer had us losing to UW-Milwaukee). The ESPN guy all picked us to win the championship, but everyone else picked UCLA. Why did you bring up MSU anyway in this thread? We did dominate everyone.</div>

    Two things about Brewer on Redick: First, a typical game for him isn't 15-20, it's 25-35. Secondly, I still don't see how Brewer will make Redick work any harder than he has all season long to get that 25-35. I know all about his athleticism, length, and all that good stuff. Like I said a few posts back, I've been following the kid since his days in Portland. However, Redick's played against defenders like Brewer all throughout his career, and that hasn't stopped him from having great nights before.

    As for the frontcourts, I would personally take McRoberts over Noah, but that's another argument for another day. Like I said in my last post, you can't just simplify this hypothetical game into player matchups. Just because Florida's frontcourt is deeper doesn't mean that they're better. Yes, I'll go with Noah being better than McRoberts, and I'll give you Moss being better than Melchionni, but they don't have anyone close to Shelden Williams' caliber, which gives Duke the advantage in the post.

    I understand that before the season began your schedule looked a bit stronger, but not so much stronger that it would make it a good schedule. The fact still remains that it was a sub-250 ranked non-conference schedule. No matter what the reason for it may have been doesn't really matter.

    The parity in college ball isn't that much different nowadays than it was in 2000. The only reason I brought Michigan State's 2000 run up is to give you an example of what a <u>dominating</u> tournament performance was, blowing out all the highest possible seeds. The Gators just had two "dominating" performances against decent opponents, a close game against #7 seeded Georgetown, and then three very much expected wins over much lower seeded teams.
     
  11. GatorsowntheNCAA

    GatorsowntheNCAA Omaha Bound 2010!

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    Alright, well what we are arguing about doesn't matter. No one will remember this argument in a couple of months and will only remember Florida Gators 2006 National Champs! We will never get to matchup with Duke or the other teams. They lost to "inferior teams". The Gators didn't lose to those teams and beat "superior teams" along the rode as well.

    Good luck to everyone next year and hopefully we can repeat!
     

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