doesn't look like it: Danny Green 65.5 Pat Connaughton 65.3 Seth Curry 64.7 Mike Conley 64.6 Otto Porter Jr. 64.5 Grayson Allen 63.6 Patty Mills 63.4 Joe Ingles 63.4 Norman Powell 63.2 Stephen Curry 62.7 Mikal Bridges 62.5 Joe Harris 62.4 Jimmy Butler 61.8 Matisse Thybulle 61.2 Zach LaVine 59.9 James Harden 59.9 Juan Toscano-Anderson 59.8 Wayne Ellington 59.7 Alec Burks 59.2 Desmond Bane 59.2 Royce O'Neale 59.2 Facundo Campazzo 59.1 Anfernee Simons 58.9 Torrey Craig 58.9 Jordan Poole 58.8 DeMar DeRozan 58.7 Trae Young 58.7 Alex Caruso 58.4 Chris Paul 58.4 Josh Hart 58.3 Gordon Hayward 58.0 Devin Vassell 57.9 Jalen Brunson 57.9 Malik Monk 57.8 Doug McDermott 57.4 George Hill Luke Kennard 57.2 Malcolm Brogdon 57.2 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 57.2 Lonzo Ball 57.2 Eric Gordon 57.1 Josh Richardson 57.1 Kevin Huerter 57.0 Jaylen Brown 57.0 Fred VanVleet 56.8 Darius Garland 56.7 Immanuel Quickley 56.5 Ja Morant 56.4 Devin Booker 56.3 Patrick Beverley 56.3 Terance Mann 56.3 Tyus Jones 56.3 Tyrese Maxey 56.1 Luguentz Dort 56.0 Kemba Walker 55.9 Miles Bridges 55.5 Will Barton 55.5 Tyler Herro 55.5 Gary Trent Jr. 55.4 Landry Shamet 55.3 Damion Lee 55.3 Dorian Finney-Smith 55.2 Kyle Lowry 55.1 Cole Anthony 55.0 Cory Joseph 54.8 Buddy Hield 54.6 Derrick Rose 54.6 Evan Fournier 54.5 Terry Rozier 54.5 Shake Milton 54.3 Luka Doncic 54.1 Scottie Barnes 54.1 Garrett Temple 54.1 Bones Hyland 54.0 Donovan Mitchell 53.9 Justin Holiday 53.8 LaMelo Ball 53.8 Dennis Schroder 53.8 T.J. McConnell 53.6 Khris Middleton 53.5 Anthony Edwards 53.5 Monte Morris 53.3 Spencer Dinwiddie 53.2 Frank Jackson 53.2 CJ McCollum 52.8 is that more than 15?
I could tell you that if BBREF had not put most of their data behind a pay wall some guys, off the top of my head (names not marks): Stephen Curry .626 Reggie Miller .614 James Harden .611 Dame .582 Ray Allen .580 Terry Porter .576 Klay Thompson .575 Devin Booker .571 Zach LaVine .571 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander .570 Bradley Beal .562 Wesley Matthews .560 (was much higher before he tore his Achilles) Steve Smith .556 CJ .552 Gary Trent Jr. .547 (actually has a lower FT rate than CJ) Demar DeRozan .546 (rarely shoots three's) CJ's TS% is about average in the league. If you eliminate big men, he'd a little above average. If you could somehow adjust for assisted FG rate (which is arguably a bad adjustment) if would be even higher
Not sure who undervalues CJ. In fact, I've seen a lot of people comment on what a great shot creator and offensive talent CJ is. That said, the other part is, that he doesn't fit with Dame and that is where I think both things can be true. CJ on his own would be very valuable as a main ball handler to a team that needed a shot creator and a score. However, if they already had one....who is better than he is, that would diminish his value which is what has happened here. Put CJ as the lead guard opposite a bigger SG who can defend and I think he would have the best seasons of his career. Sadly, that is not the case here, nor will it ever bee. That is the issue.
Glorified 6th man who makes way too much money to have that role in Portland. I’ve been saying this for years. CJ as a person and ambassador of Portland? Great! CJ as a #2 guy when you aspire to win a title? Laughable
what stands out to me is that we have had four of the top ten on our team in recent years and let them go( other than Norm) in favor of the last person on this list. Thats telling to me…
wings...guards...perimeter players...what difference does it make? I guess if you just wanted to eliminate enough players that CJ doesn't look so bad compared to those that remain...you might gripe about a more conclusive list. CJ ranks 262 out of 444 in TS% by the way, so I eliminated 354 players from the comparison....about 80% of the league and still you complain
are you implying patty mills is a scrub? PatC who was a good contributor to a championship last year a scrub? Seth curry who is philis best shooter a scrub? can you please expand? Becuase im not numbers guy and so maybe im missing something with ts% Otherwise i dont think they are scrubs at all. Djj is a scrub. Meyers is a scrub. in short, are you implying that those guys would be end of benchers for us(typically a scrubs position) Lastly where did the word scrubs come from? I find it interesting cause i think of scrub to scrub something clean and would think it should mean high quality something or other. Lol.
I was merely noting that you and I have different definitions of "starting shooting guards". But it's a positionless league these days, I guess.
There is a reason most statistics have a disclaimer like “minimum 10 shots per game” or “attempted at least 100 3s” or shit like that. But, I don’t agree with the “scrub” notion. It’s certainly easier to have a higher TS% on lower volume. But not all those players above CJ are much lower volume wise. Also a bit easier to have a decent TS% when you’re camped out in the corner getting wide open shots all game vs. creating for yourself. A good example would’ve been how in some contracts they have shoot 40% on 3 with minimum 100 attempts in order to trigger your bonus.
If I were the Wizards, I would JUMP at Beal-for-Simmons. Trouble is, just as with Dame, there's this narrative that Beal has been super loyal and needs to be rewarded. Well I say: he's BEEN rewarded with a fucking large contract. Here, take another reward: playing with Joel Embiid on a real contender. Here's hoping against hope that the Wiz don't think Simmons would be a good fit (with Dinwiddie and all) and would prefer... CJ!!! As good as Beal but a lot cheaper, and not a crazy anti-vaxxer.
I don't want Beal for CJ. Sure that would be an obvious upgrade but Beal is still a smallish ball dominant guard who is a poor defender. We don't need that shit.
