Gender issue revisited - Buck Angel

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  1. Denny Crane

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    It's both.

    Girls play with dolls, boys play with toy guns. Men hunt, women cook. Those are stereotypical roles (social constructs) that have evolved quite a bit in the past 50+ years, if not more.

    A person can feel with every fiber of their being that they should play with dolls. And all the roles that go along with being a girl. Regardless of genetalia. Works for the roles in reverse.

    It's a bit more complex because societal pressures (parents, bullies, class mates, etc.) might prevent the person from assuming the outward appearance consistent with their gender identity.
     
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    By that logic, a white man who likes rap music, fried chicken, and watermelons should be referred to as black. That is ridiculous.
     
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    Must have gone way over your head.

    The roles were examples. Use your imagination and figure out there are way more :)

    Even your white man / black man analogy isn't so black and white. What do you call the child of a black man and white woman?
     
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    Well...no.

    Score one for the strawman.
     
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    That's dope bruh.
     
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    This is such gibberish and meaningless rambling.

    That doesn't make them a female. It means they like some of the things that most girls like. There is a huge difference, and it's called genetics. It isn't that difficult to understand.
     
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    If you replace boys with blacks and girls with whites and change the stereotypes to be racial, what exactly is the difference from your original example?

    Both are wrong.

    The son of a black man and white woman is half black and half white. He can play with dolls, hunt, and listen to Cambodian psychedelic rock, he will still be a half white and half black boy. These aren't choices.



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    I'm pretty sure from this thread you would refer to them as black if they are wearing baggy pants and lots of bling, and refer to them as honky if they wear levis and tennis shoes, without regard for their color.

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    Yeah, half black, half white would be mixed race. Not black, not white, but a hybrid.
     
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    Even if I don't agree with some of the opinions expressed in this thread, I learned a lot about the subject. A tip of my hat to those that helped me see things in a different light.

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    I'm not asking for anything. I'm pointing out that there is in fact a semantic change that has happened, or is in the process of happening.
     
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    I still don't understand what you don't understand about gender (not biological sex) being socially constructed. We're not talking about genetics.
     
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    You see the complexity of the issue. But the problem still remains.

    There is a well known stand up comedian in the Middle East named Wonho Chung. His parents are both Korean. But, he grew up in Jordan, speaks Arabic as his native language, and identifies as an Arab. Should he not be able to say he is an Arab?

    How about Brother Ali, the albino rapper? Both his parents are black, but he looks white. Should he not be able to call himself black?
     
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