<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Feb 14 2008, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok, tell me this Dumpy, why does Kidd want to be traded?</div> Mid-life crisis. Seriously. Just went through an ugly divorce. He wants a change of scenery and he wants to try and win a championship.
Yea, Dave D said Thorn and Kiki are in NO right now. Kidd will probably take 20,000 hit to skip the media availability part of the weekend. If this deal does get going, it won't be until sunday at the earliest.
Easiest solution is to throw in Eddie Jones, he said he would walk if he's dealt. So he doesn't show. YOu don't pay him, he will have to opt out of the contract next year.
I think George is just worrying about getting the maximum amount he can get. If he waives his rights, he could see a pretty good sized pay cut. Of course, this is all assuming someone wants to resign him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kidd Karma @ Feb 14 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Easiest solution is to throw in Eddie Jones, he said he would walk if he's dealt. So he doesn't show. YOu don't pay him, he will have to opt out of the contract next year.</div> salaries don't match with that. Almost, but not quite enough. If we take on Jones and JET instead of George and Stack, it works though, but it costs us more. Only way I see this getting done is with a 3-way (doubtful) or Dallas uses KVH (also doubtful)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Feb 14 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think George is just worrying about getting the maximum amount he can get. If he waives his rights, he could see a pretty good sized pay cut. Of course, this is all assuming someone wants to resign him.</div> No not really true, I've been thinking about why, he's making 2.4 million this year. He declined a 2 million option a year ago, Cuban gave him 2.4 this year. So he has Bird rights. Would Cuban resign this guy for anything more than 3 million? Probably not, can Cuban get an S&T done for say 3 million....means other team would want to give up a young player......no chance of that. George's best contract at this point is with another team outside Dallas via their MLE. I'm thinking George is doing this to market himself on the floor. 2 weeks ago he wanted out...Stack and Harris go down, he's starting now, but how long does that last with Stack and Harris due back after the break.....he's getting bad advice, I think in the worst case, cuban's going to cut him on March 3.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Feb 14 2008, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok, tell me this Dumpy, why does Kidd want to be traded?</div> I can guess at about five possible reasons, but as I've never spoken to him or have any inside knowledge of what is going on inside his head, I'd rather not speculate. However, let me just mention that for the past several years, he has openly pined for an athletic big man who can finish; now he has THREE--so I suspect that the state of the Nets' front court is not the issue. Regardless of the reason or reasons, though, he is demonstrating what we knew all along: that he has little or no leadership skills.
TNT just showed an interview with George about five minutes ago. He claims that he likes his teammates, coaching staff, etc. and doesn't want to leave partially for that. He also gave a bit of insight that it may be financial wants for his reason of not leaving. And actually KK, due to the Bird Rights thing, Dallas is actually able to give him the most money in any deal. If he gets traded and waives those rights, he could see a huge paycut, as opposed to Dallas would have to pay him at least $2.4mil from my understanding. As it stands, if he does ending up killing this trade, does he actually think Dallas will bring him back? Beyond that, he's saying he likes his teammates and coaching staff, but if he kills this deal, what will they think of him? I'm pretty sure a good chunk of the players on that squad want Kidd, and are probably going to be disappointed if George kills the deal. Plus, if that's the case, I hope he can deal with getting boos the rest of the year, cause no Dallas fan will be cheering him. He'll be Dallas' version of Kwame Brown, lol.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Feb 14 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think George is just worrying about getting the maximum amount he can get. If he waives his rights, he could see a pretty good sized pay cut. Of course, this is all assuming someone wants to resign him.</div> Um. Who says the Dallas Mavericks, or anyone for that matter, would want to re-sign him? He's a moron. He should just shut his mouth about it and let the trade happen.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Feb 14 2008, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As it stands, if he does ending up killing this trade, does he actually think Dallas will bring him back? Beyond that, he's saying he likes his teammates and coaching staff, but if he kills this deal, what will they think of him? I'm pretty sure a good chunk of the players on that squad want Kidd, and are probably going to be disappointed if George kills the deal. Plus, if that's the case, I hope he can deal with getting boos the rest of the year, cause no Dallas fan will be cheering him. He'll be Dallas' version of Kwame Brown, lol.</div> He likes them so much he asked for a trade two weeks ago.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Feb 14 2008, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Feb 14 2008, 05:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>after hearing his reasons why he blocked it I can't even be upset with him. He is doing what best for him financially. I would love to see the trade get done but he's right though. The Mavs are doing what best for them by trading him and he's doing whats best for him by blocking the trade.</div> Wow. How can you not be upset with him? He's only proving he's a greedy bastard. I mean, Kidd wants to be moved, Diop wants to be moved, nobody wants Malik in Jersey except Frank, and Ager probably wants to be moved...but George and his dumb greedy ass doesn't wanna have his ****ing Bird Rights removed. Message to George: Come back to reality bitch! You're not that good, and you probably won't get re-signed by Dallas anyways! Move on, and get yo scrubby ass outta the NBA! </div> I can't see George as being greedy. I would have a problem if he was being all cry baby about it (Zo) but he is doing what's best for him. I would do the same thing. Why should he be loyal to the Mavericks if they are going to trade him. All George is doing is looking out for himself and in the business that's is a must. If the deal is to get done it will get done. <u>Now I'm never one to spread rumors but at the office today I heard someone saying that he heard on a sports show that George was persuaded by Mitch Kup to block this deal (either for the lakers to make a move for Kidd or leaving Dallas without Kidd. Mitch promise would be to bring George back to LA by signing him.</u> Like I said I'm never in to rumors but I don't believe that. Everyone is looking out for their self in this league why shouldn't George do the same. If the Mavs really want the deal to go down this will not stop them.
wow george is goin to be hearin it in dallas if he messes this up for them, i cannot imagine how pissed dallas fans are right now along with his teammates, what a bitch its goin to be sweet when free agency starts and he gets a deal for the vets minimum lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Feb 14 2008, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow george is goin to be hearin it in dallas if he messes this up for them, i cannot imagine how pissed dallas fans are right now along with his teammates, what a bitch its goin to be sweet when free agency starts and he gets a deal for the vets minimum lol</div> messes up what??? This team lost in the first round last year.
How about this just add GS as the 3rd team Change in Team Outlook: +15.2 ppg, +1.1 rpg, and -3.3 apg. Incoming Players Jerry Stackhouse 6-6 SG / SF from North Carolina 9.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 2.5 apg in 24.0 minutes Devin Harris 6-3 PG from Wisconsin 14.4 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 5.3 apg in 30.4 minutes DeSagana Diop 7-0 C from Oak Hill Academy (HS) 3.1 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.5 apg in 17.3 minutes Maurice Ager 6-5 SG from Michigan State 1.3 ppg, 0.3 rpg, 0.3 apg in 6.4 minutes Mickael Pietrus 6-6 SG / SF from France (Foreign) 5.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.9 minutes Outgoing Players Jason Kidd 6-4 PG from California 11.3 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 10.4 apg in 37.1 minutes Malik Allen 6-10 PF from Villanova 5.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 15.9 minutes Darrell Armstrong 6-1 PG from Fayetteville State 2.3 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.5 apg in 11.1 minutes Dallas Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -13.2 ppg, -0.9 rpg, and +3.3 apg. Incoming Players Jason Kidd 6-4 PG from California 11.3 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 10.4 apg in 37.1 minutes Malik Allen 6-10 PF from Villanova 5.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 15.9 minutes Darrell Armstrong 6-1 PG from Fayetteville State 2.3 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.5 apg in 11.1 minutes Outgoing Players Jerry Stackhouse 6-6 SG / SF from North Carolina 9.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 2.5 apg in 24.0 minutes Devin Harris 6-3 PG from Wisconsin 14.4 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 5.3 apg in 30.4 minutes Devean George 6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN 3.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 14.0 minutes DeSagana Diop 7-0 C from Oak Hill Academy (HS) 3.1 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.5 apg in 17.3 minutes Maurice Ager 6-5 SG from Michigan State 1.3 ppg, 0.3 rpg, 0.3 apg in 6.4 minutes Golden State Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -2.0 ppg, -0.2 rpg, and 0.0 apg. Incoming Players Devean George 6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN 3.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 14.0 minutes Outgoing Players Mickael Pietrus 6-6 SG / SF from France (Foreign) 5.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.9 minutes
a funny thought just popped into my mind now that devan george is defintly stayin in dallas and lets say this deal gets done without him, kidd would then be on the same team as george who has made this complicated as shit for evryone. what do u guys think kidd will say to him ? lol or better yet how many passes do u think he will see from kidd? Kidd to George " you shouldve accepted the trade cuz now that im here you wont ever get a pass from me!" lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Feb 15 2008, 12:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>a funny thought just popped into my mind now that devan george is defintly stayin in dallas and lets say this deal gets done without him, kidd would then be on the same team as george who has made this complicated as shit for evryone. what do u guys think kidd will say to him ? lol or better yet how many passes do u think he will see from kidd? Kidd to George " you shouldve accepted the trade cuz now that im here you wont ever get a pass from me!" lol</div> if anything Kidd should just be a damn man and don't take it. George did what was best for him team be damn. Same thing Kidd did in Dallas, Same thing Kidd did in PHX, and the Same thing Kidd did in New Jersey. Kidd to George "Forget all that Shullbit and lets get these W's." The Mavs Org should be the only people pissed for what he's doing will hit their pocket books.
