No thanks. Don't want some three team deal where we don't get Giannis and are the third wheel middle man, who gets the shaft.
My thinking was Zion fits out our timeframe better and can’t see Giannis wanting to come to Blazers with us being so young.
I don't know if I want him. He's too oft injured. Been better this last season but who knows what happens. Don't like giving them back their pick. And bringing back CJ...eh
Yeah I'd just send the Pels Scoot, Ayton, the worst of the 2029 FRPs and a lotto or top 8 protected 2031 FRP for Zion and call the whole thing good before I did that convoluted thing that you have. The rumor was that the Pels were looking for two FRPs for Zion well, I think a chance to see what they can get out of Ayton along with his bird rights, getting Scoot and one pick guaranteed to convey and another very likely to would be plenty to get Zion away from them. Then move Ant to Orlando for the best value, probably draft a PG maybe a big one like Demin. Get what you can for Rob which I still think will be some value. Leave the Giannis shit out of it... at the same time I acknowledge that you were posting a reply in a Giannis trad ideas thread so all in all it's not terrible.
I don't see Giannis wanting to go to the Pelicans. Personally I'd rather not take the Zion risk unless it was a very low cost - like our lotto pick this year being the biggest item.
I'm not sure Luka for Giannis accomplishes much for the Lakers. The Lakers need to add 3-4 rotational players either way. Now if they could somehow pair Luka with Giannis yeah maybe they could just role with a bunch of vet minimum guys around them. I don't see how they would have the assets to pull off that deal though. Luka is 5 years younger. I guess Giannis contract being locked up longer is the main positive for the Lakers to swap them. But that's going to concern the Bucks or a third team.
This still feels like a Damian situation at the end of the 2021-22 Blazer season rather than 2022-23. While no one would be shocked if he asked out, of course, I'm about 80/20 on the prospect of Giannis sticking with the Bucks at least more season (which, frankly, might be good for us, as it lessens the Pelicans leverage an extra year in favor of our leverage). I think he may need a full season of internalizing the "we're going nowhere" feeling (and perhaps the Bucks do too).
I don't see any path for them to win right now. Dame is gone for at least a year. The rest of the roster is extremely mediocre. They have no assets to acquire more talent.
I am sure I would be excited if we added Giannis to the team. I think you could put him at center with his size, defense, passing, and rebounding. No doubt he would help. But 60 million a year is a lot for a player who shot 61% from the line and 22% from deep last year. So I guess I would be happy to get him and happy not to get him.
Agreed. I really like Giannis and hopes he wins another championship. I just don't think it will be with Bucks. My hope is that they give it one more shot in Milwaukee. This also gives them a reason for them to do a Grant trade.
My trade idea is to not to trade significant assets for guys near the end of their respective careers. This team has a lot of upside in it's young players and time is on their side. If they're to trade, I suspect it will be to target more young players they see upside in like they did with Toumani and continue to build a core on the same timeline. STOMP
Ok my Bad, I guess when Giannis hears we missed the last 4 playoffs but made one the year prior he'll then want to come here.
How about this deal; Picks going out; We can fully trade a 2028 if its conditional on being two years after we give Chicago the 2026 pick. (Can't imagine we miss playoffs with this roster). Tell Chicago we want to fully guarantee they get 2026 pick if that's simpler. 2029 we owe two picks - so give Bucks the best one, which will be the best of ours, Bucks, or Celtics (a super unprotected pick. 2030 give ours two Bucks 2032 give ours unprotected to the Bucks 2028+2030 swaps are thus both effectively fully returned to the Bucks. Blazers still own picks in 2027+2029+2031 so no Stepien restriction concerns. Dame agrees to a buyout with Bucks and vet min signs with Blazers for rehab and player/coach/owner role. Always said he would recruit Giannis to PDX - just took a 19 month recruiting trip. Blazers rotation after the deal; Clingan Portis Giannis Walker Deni Grant Camara Shae Jrue (Dame) Banton
Hey I'd love if we can get Giannis for less - and certainly would offer less with initial calls. This is about the most we can offer while still having a contending roster after the moves. I'd love this roster for next season. But yeah its a hell of a lot of youth/picks we'd be giving up. I'm thinking maybe we would flip the 2032 pick to a 3rd team and get a couple protected 2026+2027 picks to the Bucks - so they don't have to wait so long for all the picks.
Somehow I totally forget we have #11 this year! Add that to the haul for the Bucks - that would be FIVE unprotected FRP - three swaps, Scoot, and a couple vets on expiring deals to flip for more assets (Ayton/Timelord/Thybulle). I really can't see any team toping that offer. Crazy but the ultimate price might actually be a bit less for Giannis. Is there any way we could retain Scoot in the deal? I'd love the blend of vets and youth if we could.
Blazers roster after the deal; Clingan Portis Giannis Walker Deni Grant Camara Shae Jrue Scoot (Dame) Thats a 2nd unit like we haven't had since 99/00 era. Maybe get an MLE vet upgrade over Walker and then for certain it is. Could do hockey subs where a whole line comes out at once. SIX total FRP for the Bucks is the most ever? TWO picks in this draft to rebuild right away - FOUR unprotected FRP - three swaps returned. Thats a hell of a haul for the Bucks. Nets or another 3rd team gives up two-three less valuable picks for a single unprotected pick. Jazz/Spurs/Thunder have done this recently. I think thats important as Bucks will want some of the picks sooner than 2029-2032
