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    Am I that obvious?
     
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    No.

    You are just demonstrating you don't understand at all what Godel was trying to say or do.
     
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    Creation is not a positive? So I'm not negative for slitting your throat because your life is not positive? I mean what does it matter right?
     
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    I mean you are absolutely and 100% clueless about what Godel meant by positive.
     
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    DOH!!!!

    God this is too easy
     
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    Perhaps it's just me, but looking back at the axioms and theorems in the OP, it appears that it is more a proof of God-like-ness rather than a proof of God. That is to say, the applications of the axioms and theorems to positive qualities point to the existence of a concept of God rather than to God Himself.
     
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    You still failed to read your own link.

    Wasn't there some mention of a caveat in there? If I were you, I'd omit that part too, or it would make you look even more clueless.
     
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    Exactly. That concept being something between Godel's ears, and likely not your concept.
     
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    The concept of Santa Clause exists, too. And vampires.
     
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    The positive can mean whatever you want it to be. And so you can input creation as a positive just as easily.
     
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    There you go. Thus it cannot be a proper axiom.

    You finally got something right.
     
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    Did the math portion of the model work sir?
     
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    That's absolutely false. As I said earlier, creation good? If you agree that creation is good, then the axiom works.

    Wtf bro, are you arguing with yourself?
     
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    The computer program that modeled Godel's modal logic was the math.

    Not the argument itself.

    There's been a long running discussion about whether a machine could possibly think like a human. This sort of grandstanding is an attempt to show one day a machine might. That, and only that, is the significance of the program.
     
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    There are no arguments on that. But what was originally posted are tools to get closer to finding God. As I also explained from the beginning, that belief in God still requires faith (look back for proof with adul). I simply suggested that models are in place to actually take finding God empirically is completely valid
     
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    No.

    I don't agree that creation had a cause at all, or was from some nebulous "goodness."

    Your (Godel's) axiom is a stinking pile.
     
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    You said it wasn't math right? So if it isn't math, then it couldn't work as I keep posting.

    Just because you believe the model false, doesn't make it false on the math sense. If you go there, then as I already posted, models to suggest singularity are just as false.

    Do you want to go there?
     
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