God's not dead

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    Love is not empirically testable. Sorry...
     
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    Emotions are testable. In fact it's possible to artificially trigger them.
     
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    And one can easily say "I'm in love" and there is no way you, I or anyone can read if this is true. You can try and read "brain waves" whenever they talk about the person they are in love with. But in the end, there is no empirical evidence that can guarantee the results are accurate. Same with people able to beat "lie detector" tests.
     
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    You using love semantically as if it's just some sort of vaguely defined aesthetic preference. You're welcome to define it that way, but it seems pretty trivial. You might as well substitute "prefer".

    If you define love to mean a strong positive emotional reaction associated with and triggered by a particular object, that is detectable.
     
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    That's what you think love is? Really?
     
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    How did God get created?
     
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    He is eternal. He was never created
     
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    He must have been... By a more intelligent designer.
     
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    Guess you don't know what eternal means
     
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    But what was there before "eternal?" Of course it was the more intelligent designer!
     
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    eternal
    [ iˈtərnl ]
    adjective

    lasting or existing forever; without end or beginning:
    "the secret of eternal youth"
    synonyms: everlasting · More
    (of truths, values, or questions) valid for all time; essentially unchanging:
    "eternal truths of art and life"

    We all know comprehension is not your strong suite.
     
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    Time had a beginning, so you describe a mythical being that is an impossibility.
     
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    Well we are talking about my God and being eternal. Your lame attempt to argue eternity then has no relevance.

    And the universe had a beginning as well, so what eternal object created it? With a beginning, there is purpose.
     
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    Well if you can make stuff up, like there was a "time" (or something) before there actually was time, then I can use your own logic (fault) against you: there had to be a time before God's time started.
     
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    Wow you are a little dense bro. The universe created time. When the universe was created, it created space and time. Anything that existed outside the universe obviously isn't bound by time. Don't you know this?
     
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    The universe didn't create time.

    The rest of what you say makes no sense, either. there's no logic to it ;)
     
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    Sorry was driving through the mountains. I come back to this?!

    So are you disagreeing that when the universe expanded, matter, space and time was created?
     
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    Which is it? Time was created/started, or time is eternal?

    Logic. Fault.

    It came to be with the big bang. There is no better explanation for it as far as anyone actually knows.

    Here's a great site, with this interesting topic on it:
    http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/chapter12.html
     
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    Eternal has no time. They didn't start or end. But you've already proven you lost all logic in this debate when you tried to argue that something eternal was created.

    As for the other nonsense, the Big Bang was the creation of the universe (matter/space/time). Nothing before that has been observed. Making a dig that I believe God did it as appose to believing in singularity, is completely contradicting.
     

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