Golden State vs. Atlanta (rematch)

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  1. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Wow, I'm glad I didn't watch this game. It would have been a real mood killer.
     
  2. AlleyOop

    AlleyOop JBB JustBBall Member

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    Yeah -- first game I didn't watch or tape all year -- glad I didn't watch it, lol -- I'm starting to not really give much of a crap about the Warriors. Lose by 1 point to a scrub team at home? Man the fans at the Oracle must've felt like barfing. But it's been obvious -- even with the Pacer trade -- that this team has been playing some ugly-ass ball. It'll take a huge win streak or a major trade to get me excited again. And we all know there won't be no win streak coming, lol.
     
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    Well Atlanta has been playing hot..... they have a lot of active lengthy forwards.... childress, smith, williams, johnson killed it...

    we made a nice comeback...

    i thought SArunas played well once again....

    I was ready to bash barnes hard this game.... but he did come up with some good plays down the stretch..... i was ready to kill him after that soft and one foul .... what is that five games in a row with him doing that?

    baron, j-rich and mp out..... man we win this game easy....


    Denver tomorrow night....on back end .... thin bench,..... 3 starters out..... i am writing this one off.... hope they surprise me...


    come back wednesday blow out the knicks... and head into the all star break knowing we are within striking distance....

    we should be starting after the all star break.... completley healthy and intact... for the first time...baron. j-rich and mp back


    the impact :

    starters :

    AB, Al, j-rich, MP, Baron

    with Jackson, Ellis the first off the bench ..... Wow nice

    and then we can to to Powell, Az, Sarunas

    With BArnes and Foyle getting limited minutes

    What this means is that guys like BArnes will no longer get big minutes where their limitations are exposed and can play low minutes with hopefully high impact

    Whether it is Ellis/Jackason or Ellis/Pietrus off the bench both are strong.... and who know it may end up being JAckson/PIetrus off teh bench and Ellis starting

    I am excited for finally seeing the team complete after the all star break..... aside from the sophomore game..... i wont watch any of it.... i think it is a desgrace that Kobe is a judge when DArvin Ham owned him in the dunk contest.... and J-rich is not invited as a judge
     
  4. AlleyOop

    AlleyOop JBB JustBBall Member

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    I like the optimism, but there's 2 snags, IMO:

    1)It might be too little too late. It's going to take a while for the chemistry to gel -- it hasn't yet since the trade, and with JRich and Baron back, it will be an awkward transition for this team, IMO. JRich isn't going to mean an instant win-streak. He might even mean a losing streak until he can figure out how to get back into things. Plus, his knee might never be the same. WE might get at best the slow, unexplosive JRich we had earlier in the season.

    2)This team is tiny. Getting JRich and Baron won't change that.
     
  5. jason bourne

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    <div class="quote_poster">boogielew Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I was ready to bash barnes hard this game.... but he did come up with some good plays down the stretch..... i was ready to kill him after that soft and one foul .... what is that five games in a row with him doing that?</div>

    I can see Barnes getting some of the blame [​IMG].

    On the last play, Barnes, AB and Monta crashed the glass. Barnes was the one who got the board and ran downcourt as he was supposed to being the point forward. The percentage play was to take it to the hole since the Warriors were down by one.

    However, Barnes didn't pentrate enough and instead passed the ball to Jackson. The better play would've been to drive the middle some more and give the ball to Azubuike who was leading the play on the other lane or take it to the rack himself. Either could've got an easy layup and the win or gotten fouled.

    I really think if Monta got the ball, he would've made the right play by driving it deep and taking it himself or dishing to Azu cutting to the basket.
     
  6. Clif25

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    <div class="quote_poster">jason voorhees Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I can see Barnes getting some of the blame [​IMG].

    On the last play, Barnes, AB and Monta crashed the glass. Barnes was the one who got the board and ran downcourt as he was supposed to being the point forward. The percentage play was to take it to the hole since the Warriors were down by one.

    However, Barnes didn't pentrate enough and instead passed the ball to Jackson. The better play would've been to drive the middle some more and give the ball to Azubuike who was leading the play on the other lane or take it to the rack himself. Either could've got an easy layup and the win or gotten fouled.

    I really think if Monta got the ball, he would've made the right play by driving it deep and taking it himself or dishing to Azu cutting to the basket.</div>

    If a team/fans is/are blaming Matt Barnes for losing games, then maybe that is an indicator that this team isn't very good. That would be the case on the surface, however since the team is without three starters then I suppose it isn't the entire case.

    The question that may raise to the surface is: Can a team like the Warriors who relies so much on Baron Davis, who also has such a huge contract, be a player that this team can rely on to carry it to the playoffs? I don't want to blame or appear to be blaming Baron Davis for the team not being in position for the playoffs, especially so far this season. But maybe in the future, it may be that way, especially if the team is getting high lotto picks and can't pick up a super star like Durant or Oden potentially may become and have to settle more with Ike Diogu's and Patrick O'Bryants. Unfortunately the same question may someday have to be proposed to Monta Ellis, but hopefully not.

    Mostly, however, I just am eager to see JRich back and healthy. Well I am most eager to see this team make the playoffs, but JRich coming back will help or at least bring some more spectating interest.
     
  7. jason bourne

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    <div class="quote_poster">Clif25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If a team/fans is/are blaming Matt Barnes for losing games, then maybe that is an indicator that this team isn't very good. That would be the case on the surface, however since the team is without three starters then I suppose it isn't the entire case.</div>

    Well, I wasn't making a comment on the team, but was being facetious in reaching to make Barnes the scapegoat [​IMG]. I only heard the 4Q on KNBR, and it sounded like Barnes was having a good game.

    OTOH I just thought of this now. What if Nellie did call the fast break play during the previous timeout? Usually, the fast break isn't a scripted play, but Nellie seems to rely on winning the transition in lieu of calling timeout and diagramming a play against a set defense.

    The fast break play would have been either Monta (PG) or Barnes (point forward) getting the ball and running it up court while the two wings take off downcourt filling the lanes. If AB got the ball, then he could heave it downcourt, give an outlet to Monta, or maybe Nelson calls timeout if he can't do either.

    If it is a Nelson play, then I assume they work on it and practice it. Then Barnes should have known better to make his man commit either to him or to one of the wings. The Warriors had 3 on 2 numbers. Instead, he gave the ball up too early imho.

    Even if Barnes did give it up early, Jax could've quickly gotten the ball back to him if he saw the defender cut him off. Instead, it looked like he just froze.

    I rather have seen Nellie call a timeout once the Warriors got the rebound, but with him diagramming a fast break play is a good possibility.
     
  8. Warriorfansnc93

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    Barnes started off very poorly, but he bounced back at the end of the game. His numbers were very Murphy like...
     

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