Golden State Warriors: Overrated or No?

Their stars are great but probably fall short of the greatest of the greats. On the other hand their supporting cast/bench is hands down the best I've ever seen. Add Livingston or Iguadala to Portland's roster & they win 50+ with ease. Ezeli is their 2nd or 3rd string Center, but he's better then any Big on Portland. Their team D is outstanding. They defend the 3 point line as well as anyone, have length throughout the roster that allows them to switch on screens seamlessly, have several shut down individual defenders & Bogut/Draymond do a fantastic job of defending the rim.

I do hate their TV announcers though...worst in the league. On the other hand the obnoxious bandwagon fans that some are complaining about remind me of every other obnoxious bandwagon fans... as a Duck I've seen this from the inside.

STOMP

 

Do not know if they are overrated or not, I enjoy watching them play basketball. That's good enough for me.

 

If that's what you're going to resort to then I'm going to assume you're young and weren't alive to witness 80s/90s basketball, and therefore don't know what you're talking about. It has nothing to do with the rules, and everything to do with the talent disparity. You make it sound like Bird/Magic/Jordan/etc/etc/etc wouldn't have been able to figure out how to play under today's rules and that's just asinine - they would have been even more dominant today than they were when they actually played.

There is simply no denying that the league's top-tier talent was exceedingly more talented and deep than today's top-tier talent. If you try to deny that you're just flat out wrong. It's only today's role players that are better than the role players of the 80s/90s. The floor has come up, but the ceiling has come crashing down.

 

I'm not denying their defense, but I also don't know that I'm wholly buying into it.

Exhibit A: We hung 120 points on them in three straight games.
Exhibit B: OKC went up 3-1, including 133 and 118 point performances. (And then the refs really swung momentum in G5 for GSW.)
Exhibit C: CLE is playing the game at half-speed - that has nothing to do with GSW's defense.

 

Agreed. The more I watch LBJ the further he falls short of the Jordan comparisons. He's not even Kobe or Wade-level. Karl sounds about right. Of course, that's current LBJ not peak LBJ.

 

Biggest issue with Lebron has been his jumpshot.

WTF happened to it? It looked great in MIA.

 

I was talking about defense. So I'm not sure what you're talking about.

 

Did you even read my post?

 

Not even on Kobe or wades level? Now you're just talkin shit.

 

I'm talking about muthafuckin basketball. Both sides. Regardless of the changes in defense, yesteryear's stars were WAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY better than today's. I'm not falling for your strawman argument that's only taking into account the defensive side of the game.

 

Current-day LBJ? Not even close to Kobe/Wade level...unless you're comparing him to current-day Kobe/Wade, in which case he's much better than at least one of them.

 

LeBron is still the best player in the league. The hate for him here is ridiculous.

 

HOw can we get Livingston from GSW?

I REALLY Like his game and think he would be a great addition as a BU SF

 

Hell, HE will probably become a starter somewhere.

 

I don't disagree with that. And I think that perfectly illustrates how much better the top talent in the NBA use to be.

 

Isn't it interesting that it seems only in basketball do people want to compare generations. Sure the whole "Greatest QB to ever play" debate comes up, but not with near the reluctance to give up legends of past. Also interesting that expansion seems to only hurt basketball from a telent standpoint in the eyes of fans.

 

I hear comparisons of Montana and Favre. Brady/Manning compared to Elway.

Ive also heard Bartolo Colon compared to Fernando Valenzuela

 

So basically I was like "I don't think the nba is weak because of the 2004 rule change" and you were like FUCK THAT JORDAN BIRD AN MAGIC WERE BETTER THAN ANYONE IN THE NBA TODAY good talk.