Golden State @ Washington -- 3/4/05

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  1. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-Rich23:</div><div class="quote_post">He shoots too much and takes 15 shots a game. I prefer he be more like the Fisher on LA. The one that isn't gonna try to be the leading scorer, but the one that't gonna chip on the wins</div> So what if he takes 15 shots, though. As long as he makes half of them and recognizes people that are more open and takes the opportunity to drive and get fouled. He's been doing that. We need other players to take the pressure of the guys that are always having defenders on them like Jrich. As long as they're good looks and not with 15-20 seconds left on the clock and he has his feet set he's in good shape. If he's in a good position to do what he's known for doing well, then, fire away, Dfish. I just pray he doesn't have any Kobe moments when he's the only point guard in the game and start firing some shots without using up some clock to get better looks.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">So what if he takes 15 shots, though. As long as he makes half of them and recognizes people that are more open and takes the opportunity to drive and get fouled. He's been doing that. We need other players to take the pressure of the guys that are always having defenders on them like Jrich. As long as they're good looks and not with 15-20 seconds left on the clock and he has his feet set he's in good shape. If he's in a good position to do what he's known for doing well, then, fire away, Dfish. I just pray he doesn't have any Kobe moments when he's the only point guard in the game and start firing some shots without using up some clock to get better looks.</div>

    I see what you mean, it's great that he can score, but more than half of his shots are from deep. The worst thing is that he's gonna be shooting some of those on a fast break or something. He's a great player, but he needs to start not shooting the threes all the time. I love it when we are running the offense and then Fisher gets a three or a jumper, he just needs to stop shooting the three ball as his first option or in transition. He is a mentor to some of these guys and we don't want them shooting threes in transition when they can drive. That's what I don't like about Fisher, other than that he is fine
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-Rich23:</div><div class="quote_post">I see what you mean, it's great that he can score, but more than half of his shots are from deep. The worst thing is that he's gonna be shooting some of those on a fast break or something. He's a great player, but he needs to start not shooting the threes all the time. I love it when we are running the offense and then Fisher gets a three or a jumper, he just needs to stop shooting the three ball as his first option or in transition. He is a mentor to some of these guys and we don't want them shooting threes in transition when they can drive. That's what I don't like about Fisher, other than that he is fine</div>

    But why would you fault him, if 3 point range is his bread and butter?? I don't believe he shoots 3's all the time either, I've seen him fake shooting a 3 then drive in closer for a midrange shot. See, the thing is once he bombs 3's from the out side, he can extend the defense outside, therefore opening up the inside to either dish or drive in for a closer shot. Well I'd have to say in the beginning of the season DFish really looked like crap but these last 15-20 games he looks like hes on fire. His stats don't lie. He also plays very solid D even though hes not quick enough. He makes up for being solid.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting openglfx:</div><div class="quote_post">But why would you fault him, if 3 point range is his bread and butter?? I don't believe he shoots 3's all the time either, I've seen him fake shooting a 3 then drive in closer for a midrange shot. See, the thing is once he bombs 3's from the out side, he can extend the defense outside, therefore opening up the inside to either dish or drive in for a closer shot. Well I'd have to say in the beginning of the season DFish really looked like crap but these last 15-20 games he looks like hes on fire. His stats don't lie. He also plays very solid D even though hes not quick enough. He makes up for being solid.</div>

    The thing I don't like about Fisher is that he thinks he can do everything and when he tries to come up big in the final quarters, he usually keeps the ball away from the people that are open and can get something started, or he starts to shoot the ball all day long and ends up with three threes in five mintues. I like Fisher as of lately, but he has made some mistakes this year that can screw us up.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-Rich23:</div><div class="quote_post">The thing I don't like about Fisher is that he thinks he can do everything and when he tries to come up big in the final quarters, he usually keeps the ball away from the people that are open and can get something started</div>

    I can agree with you on this...they were talking about this on the radio tonight after the game..Fish needs to recognize when he is hot and cold and who else on the team is hot and cold..Its great when he has his shot going and keeps hitting but it seems like when he's cold, he tries to hard to shoot himself out of the slump rather then let other guys get involved, especially the hottest player on the floor..
    It took Monty long enough to figure out Fisher is a better SG then PG..I been saying this since 10 games in the season..atliest he was willing to experiment and it worked for the better, even tho it was too late..
     
  6. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I feel like this team needs to have another Bobby Sura or Larry Hughes just to make Fisher more effective. The guy has no way to get to the basket and he doesn't seem to make intelligent passes or posess the courtvision pure point guards have. Like if he didn't score and was more like a Steve Blake or a Brevin Knight, he would help a lot of these other guys we have that are catch and shoot players and we could fiddle with these lineups and go bigger. i.e. Zarko at the 3, Skita at the 2, Murphy at the 4, and Foyle or Biedrens at the 5. I mean we have some huge 7 footers that can play 4 positions we might as well use them if we're not going to play defense and we want to emulate a nearly uncontested shot. We're basically forced to use Fisher as a 2 guard because he's a horrible point unless somebody drives and dishes for him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I feel like this team needs to have another Bobby Sura or Larry Hughes just to make Fisher more effective. The guy has no way to get to the basket and he doesn't seem to make intelligent passes or posess the courtvision pure point guards have. Like if he didn't score and was more like a Steve Blake or a Brevin Knight, he would help a lot of these other guys we have that are catch and shoot players and we could fiddle with these lineups and go bigger. i.e. Zarko at the 3, Skita at the 2, Murphy at the 4, and Foyle or Biedrens at the 5. I mean we have some huge 7 footers that can play 4 positions we might as well use them if we're not going to play defense and we want to emulate a nearly uncontested shot. We're basically forced to use Fisher as a 2 guard because he's a horrible point unless somebody drives and dishes for him.</div>

    Couldn't have put it better myself, get an underrated PG and have Fisher excel [​IMG] However it's not going to work like that [​IMG]
     

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