Good and Bad News on Turner

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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Kingspeed had commented in the "Enes Kanter" is garbage thread that it's threads like that that cause players to not want to play here, etc. It was a big time TIC.
     
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    Layman did alright last game without him though.
     
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    Another fact: the numbers say Evan Turner doesn't deserve to play (look them up yourself) EXCEPT for his salary, which is at an elite level.

    But seriously now, Stotts is a conservative coach. He worries about his players, worries about how they feel; he is loyal. He stuck with Moe when the whole city was groaning, and for the same sort of reason, I'm sure he'll stick with ET. Unfortunately.
     
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    You are still confusing facts with an opinion. Unless Stotts or someone that knows the facts tells you it, it's nothing but a speculative opinion on your part and you have offered nothing to support what you are posting.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I know I’m in the minority (Mexican) around here, but I like ET. Wiley vet who can get in there and mix it up in a tight playoffs series. Can get his own shot off and find others on the court when he decides to. Guy can get a call from an official in the playoffs. One of few on our roster.
     
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    http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3/position/2

    https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/turneev01.html

    There's the facts.

    The facts are the facts: ie, the numbers. The speculation is speculation: ie, the processing of the acts. You insult yourself by pointing out and labeling things you see as fact or opinion when EVERYONE knows the goddamn difference...and has know since elementary school. The point of a forum, and life in general, is to interpret facts or information and come to a logical conclusion. Your conclusion is "nothing can be deduced or inferred ever." We get it.
     
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    I like certain aspects of ET’s game and think he definitely can have a role on a good team, but his lack of shooting (sometimes even around the basket) is a problem. I like ET as a ball handler on the break, he might be there best passer in transition as he does a great job of having his head up. He’s interesting as a defender some match ups (even elite players) he can be really good, and some match ups he’s pretty awful...
    My main issue with him has always been that I dont believe he’s a great fit in Stotts offense, Stotts half court offense has usually almost always required guys to be at least adequate shooters and he really hurts there spacing... When they play him with other guys who cant shoot or at least dont have the respect of the defense as shooters the spacing out there is rough which leads to some ugly possessions when he’s not out there with the right group.
     
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    The thing is Turners objectively the second best passer on a team that doesn’t have many to begin with. Taking him out puts a lot of pressure on guys to win one on one matchups instead of racking up easy buckets. That will be an issue in the playoffs. Contract aside, I think he’s a little under appreciated. I wish we had someone better to fill his role, but I don’t think we do.
     
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    Learn the difference between a fact and opinion. His numbers are facts. Why he plays is YOUR opinion. Have you ever heard anyone from the Blazers coaching staff state that he plays because of his salary? Please provide the link. Now please cease with the name calling and personal attacks. It makes you look like the fool.

    By the way, the purpose of a forum is for discussion of a subject. That's all.
     
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    I think he’s third behind Dame and Nurk, but ya know thats just an argument to argue, Ill give you this one heh. :)
     
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    His assist % is second the team. And he’s usually the only playmaker on the second unit.
     
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    I said Ill give you this one lol. There are arguements to be made, but we’ll say he’s 2nd. :)
     
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    Lmao. Sorry man but you really think anyone would ocme iut and admit he plays because he makes more? That stuff you keep to yourself and within imner circles only.

    And props is right. This is a forum to discuss, analyze, interpret and provide OPINIONS of things based on the facts.

    What is sooo wrong with that?
     
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    Does a tree make a sound when falling in the woods if no one is around to see and hear it????.......
     
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    Yes.
     
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    But!!!!
    It didnt happen if it wasnt reported!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Nothing is wrong with an opinion as long as the person stating it realizes it's an opinion. What is wrong is forming an opinion and stating it as a fact.
     
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    Now your posts are reaching new lows. Obviously after yesterday and today I may have to rethink putting you back on ignore. I see no value in a discussion with you lately.
     
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    That's what I'm saying! No shit why he plays is my opinion! Everyone knows what an opinion is!

    It works this way: people are smarter than you think. Quit insulting everyone by telling them their opinions are their opinions as if they don't already know it! We know already! And we know that you don't value other people's opinions (and I don't have a link). Great. Thing is, I do. I want to know what other people think and that's why I visit this goddamn forum.

    I like you and most everyone else here. I'm sorry
     
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