Good and Bad News on Turner

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  1. Propagandist

    Propagandist Well-Known Member

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    The (old) new staggering of CJ and Dame has brought back that style from a couple of years ago. CJ isn't the best passer, but he's certainly adequate.
     
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    You said it was FACT. Now you agree with me and say it is your opinion. Learn the difference. I am done here as this discussion went beyond any usefullness and your pitiful name calling shows your childish side. Buh bye.
     
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    Just reread already. You've made a forum career out of nitpicking things you've misinterpreted.
     
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    I'm a little crazy, but it's with zero malice. So it's safe.
     
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  5. Orion Bailey

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    no value because you cant teach certain old dogs new tricks.

    Please do excersize your choice. All you do is insult those that dont agree with you and most dont agree with you.

    Carry on.
     
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    Seems you can only converse with a few on here. Those that agree with you. The moment you dont agree you throw a tantrum.

    This is all too common these days and so sad...
     
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    that's more a comment on the job Olshey has done in getting any playmakers besides Dame, rather then on Turner's 'skill' as one

    Turner is tied for 81st in the league in assist rate, meaning there are 80 players better at assist rate than him. If you filter for 30 games played, there are 62

    worse, is his turnover rate. His assist-rate/turnover-rate ratio is 1.25. Dame's is 2.63 and he's no wizard at protecting the ball. For chrissakes, Nurkic's ratio is 1.23 and he gets called for lots of screen fouls. When your 2nd best offensive facilitator is at the same level as Nurkic in play-making efficiency there's an issue
     
  8. CupWizier

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    And who did i insult? You? Or the guy that called me a lazy bastard or apologizes and changed it to old bastard? Maybe i should have insulted him and said he was a stupid bastard and claimed it to be fact. I simply said that propsy stated an opinion and not a fact and then for whatever reason you stick your nose in trying to stir things up agIn. It's what you do consistently in the forum and then go all drama queen on the forum with shallow apoligies.

    We are also done here.
     
  9. Orion Bailey

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    You referenced the other day. You imsulted bodyman pretty much out of the blue.

    You insult peoples intelligence all the time. You dont know you are doing it so you dont think you do it. But you do. Many people have told you this, yet you still turn a blind eye.
     
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    Maybe, but the bottom line is the current roster is what Terry has to deal with at this very moment, so any suggestions by others that Terry should not play him.....he doesn't have much of a choice. ET's contract is not the reason.
     
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    I mean the team had 29 assists last game. I know it's just one game but it suggests passing might not be an issue.

    The other thing is it's harder for other players to get assists when Turner is in the game because he can't hit a jump shot, even when left wide open, and the spacing is worse because of it when Kanter is already down low.
     
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    Fact is he hurts the team when he's on the floor and shouldnt be playing. Stats say that. So why is he playing?
     
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    For the reason you stated, Nurk is definitively the more efficient playmaker compared to Turner.

    It's also a problem when facilitating is his only "strength".
     
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    You'd have to be blind or foolish (or both) to not realize the reason why Turner plays so much in the regular rotation.
     
  16. CupWizier

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    That is an opinion and not a fact. Why are facts and opinions so hard for some of you to understand? A fact would be, Turner averages 23.3 mpg this year.
     
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    You are looking very desperate for an argument with me. Ain't gonna happen kid.
     
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    Because he's funny?
     
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  19. illmatic99

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    Here's another fact. He makes our team worse when he plays over guys like CJ/Seth/Moe/Jake.

    His net rating is 8th on the team at +0.7. The only ones worse are Hood (+0.3), Collins (-1.0), Leonard (-3.3), Kanter (-10.9), followed by the rookies. Hood and Kanter don't have nearly the sample size as the rest of our rotation.

    Jake's is +3.2. Moe is at +4.0. CJ at +5.3. Seth at +5.5.

    It's not just this year, Turner was 12th on our team in net rating last year, and 14th the year prior. He sucks and he makes our team worse. He plays because of his salary and some cooked up image Terry has of him as a good defender and veteran leader. I don't buy it.
     
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    Don't think he's all that funny either.
     

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