Politics Good people vs bad people

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Honest question. Define it.
     
  2. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    It's so obvious that I'm at a loss as to how to make it even simpler.
    I'll attempt.
    Approx. 1.5 Million people are in prison. That's custody. Did I really have to spell that out?
     
  3. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I would be be curious to see the statistics on repeat offenders after parole or escape.

    How many families torn apart because someone who was "safely in custody" wasn't anymore.

    Does it have to be someone in your family? A friend?

    Fuck em. Bullet to the head
     
  4. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Well, let's just put all 1.5 Million of them to death. There would at the most be a tiny protest.
    Anyhow, they're all no good and not deservin' of livin' and that includes Johnny Cash if he were alive.
    Did anybody ever tell you that you're cold hearted?
     
  5. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I'm a good man, who loves his family, and would give the shirt off his back to help someone.

    But you know me so well, you probably knew that already.
     
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    PDXFonz I'm Listening

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    Like the 4 whom were shot, thievery was at times punishable by death. I stand by my stance and you can see it or proclaim it however you would like.

    If you choose to break into someone’s house you are accepting a possible death sentence, and seeing how there is no reason for you to be in there in the first place - the consequences fit the action.
     
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    barfo commie pinko... now with added syphilis! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Theft, and breaking and entering, are two different crimes.

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  8. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    So, you want to go back to stealing a loaf of bread is punishable by the death sentence.
    Breaking into someone's house while they're home is risking death because the home owner doesn't know if his life is threatened or not. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
    Sentencing someone to death for robbing a bank once you've caught him and have him in prison is insanity.
     
  9. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I believe you. I just think sentencing someone to death for theft once you've arrested him and have him in prison is cold hearted.
     
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    And I think it's cold hearted of people to take things that I worked hard to buy.
     
  11. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Punishment fits the crime. Every school child knows this.
    You don't murder someone because they walk out with your favorite TV.
    You kill someone because they threaten your life.
     
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    How does anyone know intent?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Not sure what you mean by that but I do know that Richard Nixon told Frost in a TV interview that he could never be convicted in an impeachment trial because no one could prove he had evil intent.
    Well, when you're not home when the theft occurs I'm going to presume that no one tried to kill you. That seems like a reasonable assumption. Besides, if you're not there then you're not there, so where does the death penalty come into play? Seems to me like breaking and entering and theft might be the charges and we don't put people to death for that because that would be insanity.
     
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    But has I been home would they have tried?
     
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    That's not the issue.
     
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    I think the answer is when disabled. Isn't that why the police use handcuffs?
     
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    Burglary is synonymous with theft
     
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    Disagree. Burglary is entering a building with the intent to commit a theft or other crime. Robbery is taking something from someone directly, i.e. when they are present. Theft is just taking something, the owner doesn't have to be there and the item doesn't have to be in a building.

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    Florida woman fights off home intruder, tells him 'I'm not your mama'

    By Travis Fedschun | Fox News

    Florida woman fights off home intruder: 'Get out of my house!'

    A suspect is behind bars in Fort Lauderdale, Florida after resident Alice Colmean says she bit a man trying to enter her house.

    A woman in Florida got a rude awakening on Monday when she went to go check on a fire alarm and ended up in a fight for her life.

    Alice Coleman said she woke up to a fire alarm going off and opened the front door of her Fort Lauderdale apartment to see what was happening. But that's when Fort Lauderdale police said 34-year-old Fitzroy Morton confronted her.

    “He was telling me, ‘No, mama. Everything gon’ be all right,'” Coleman told WSVN. “‘Everything’s not going to be all right. I’m not your mama. I don’t know who you are. Get out of my house.'"

    Morton then tried to push his way into Coleman's apartment armed with "a big butcher knife," the 61-year-old told WSVN.

    “I was able to bite him, and I didn’t even have my teeth in my mouth like now,” Coleman told the television station. “My brother said, ‘How did you bite him?’ I said, ‘With the little teeth I got, I bit him!’ I felt some kind of danger. I sensed it, and I seen that look on his face. My life were in danger.”

    Coleman said she was eventually able to fight off Morton and run out of her apartment.

    “I ran out, and when I ran out, he locked himself in here,” Coleman told WSVN. “Locked me outta my own place.”

    The 61-year-old was able to run to a neighbor's home and call police. Authorities took Morton into custody shortly after.

    Broward County Jail records show the 34-year-old faces three felony charges, including two counts of burglary and false imprisonment. Morton appeared in court on Tuesday, where a judge denied bond, according to WSVN.

    Coleman said now when she opens her front door, she'll have a different plan going forward.

    “I’ll be more careful from now on when I open my door,” she said Tuesday. “I’ll open my door with my Taser, because I have one.”
     
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    Maybe. I watched a 60 minute special one time that was interviewing thieves and several mentioned that they won't do a home burglary unless the people are home so that way they first, won;t be surprised by them all of a sudden coming home and that if they are home, you know at least a wallet should be available.
     

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