<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">During the playoff a team with a larger back court will wear out one with smaller faster guards, as demonstrated by the Pistons in the playoffs this year. Speed can be contained by a good defensive team, be it through zone defense or just clogging the lane with bodies. However, a bigger guard will be able to back down a smaller guard even if he is a good defender pretty much any game (ie. Billups on Duhon, Gordon).</div> Well, Billups is a smarter guard then Duhon too, his basketball IQ is higher. I think though, Gordon is a good defender, the whole Bulls team is good defensively. They work as 1 unit, trying to shut down the opponent, however, with the Pistons, they found that way to late in the series to win. I'm just can't wait till Hinrich gets past this little funk he is in, and improves and Gordon I know will get better same with Deng. They have a great back court, it's a matter of how willing is Hinrich and Gordon.
<div class="quote_poster">Master Shake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well, Billups is a smarter guard then Duhon too, his basketball IQ is higher. I think though, Gordon is a good defender, the whole Bulls team is good defensively. They work as 1 unit, trying to shut down the opponent, however, with the Pistons, they found that way to late in the series to win. I'm just can't wait till Hinrich gets past this little funk he is in, and improves and Gordon I know will get better same with Deng. They have a great back court, it's a matter of how willing is Hinrich and Gordon.</div> The Pistons are just a team I used as an example, but the same holds true for a team like the Nets who we struggled against all season (except one game) and beat us knocking us down to the fifth seed. The back court of Kidd and Carter were just to big for us to handle. I'm not saying its impossible to win with a smaller back court, but no way in hell is having a small back court an advantage, especially in the western conference.
<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Pistons are just a team I used as an example, but the same holds true for a team like the Nets who we struggled against all season (except one game) and beat us knocking us down to the fifth seed. The back court of Kidd and Carter were just to big for us to handle. I'm not saying its impossible to win with a smaller back court, but no way in hell is having a small back court an advantage, especially in the western conference.</div> The backcourt of kidd are carter were just too good for you to handle. They are much better guards, just like billups and hamilton are better. Like at GS. BD and Monta arent exactly huge. Baron is beefy but not tall. I just think that talent wins over size everytime. Look at AI. He is tiny yet plays the two. Him and eric snow didn't win a title but they made to the finals along with McKie. Thats a TINY guard lineup. What about Wade and Payton? They are about the same size as Duhon and Foye are they not? And i wasn't talking about winning a title anyway. I said it would be ok. Also, in the western conference devin harris and jason terry have been winning a lot of games the last few years using their quickness and not size.
<div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The backcourt of kidd are carter were just too good for you to handle. They are much better guards, just like billups and hamilton are better. Like at GS. BD and Monta arent exactly huge. Baron is beefy but not tall. I just think that talent wins over size everytime. Look at AI. He is tiny yet plays the two. Him and eric snow didn't win a title but they made to the finals along with McKie. Thats a TINY guard lineup. What about Wade and Payton? They are about the same size as Duhon and Foye are they not? And i wasn't talking about winning a title anyway. I said it would be ok. Also, in the western conference devin harris and jason terry have been winning a lot of games the last few years using their quickness and not size.</div> Eric Snow was an exceptional defender during his time with the 76ers who stood at 6-3/6-4 so he was able to guard the two while Iverson would play the point guard. Not to mention having Mckie who at the time was the sixth man of the year and is also 6-5 so I don't know why you mentioned him as a small guard, and even with all that they still lost to the Lakers in five games. The back court of Wade and Payton is not a small back corut either both stand around 6-4/6-5. The Wolves have Foye measured at 6-4 but his combine measurements have him at barely around 5-3. I'm a big Foye fan, but pairing him with Duhon in a back court would not be a good move for the Wolves. Harris and Terry won alot of games over the last two years? But were knocked off this year by the Warriors because Davis was able to use his size (strength wise) to bully them. Now the Mavs are supposable looking to move Terry. So your just proving the point for me. You also mentioned Davis/Ellis, well first of all Davis is one of the strongest guards in the league, and the Warriors had a guy named Jason Richardon who is 6-6 playing shooting guard as well. Like I said before its not impossible to win with a small back court some teams in the past have done it like the Pistons when they had Dumars/Thomas. However, a Foye/Duhon back court is not one that would have success imo. Lets see what happens though, I will just leave it at that, because if your convinced it would work there is nothing I can say that will change your mind.
<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Eric Snow was an exceptional defender during his time with the 76ers who stood at 6-3/6-4 so he was able to guard the two while Iverson would play the point guard. Not to mention having Mckie who at the time was the sixth man of the year and is also 6-5 so I don't know why you mentioned him as a small guard, and even with all that they still lost to the Lakers in five games. The back court of Wade and Payton is not a small back corut either both stand around 6-4/6-5. The Wolves have Foye measured at 6-4 but his combine measurements have him at barely around 5-3. I'm a big Foye fan, but pairing him with Duhon in a back court would not be a good move for the Wolves. Harris and Terry won alot of games over the last two years? But were knocked off this year by the Warriors because Davis was able to use his size (strength wise) to bully them. Now the Mavs are supposable looking to move Terry. So your just proving the point for me. You also mentioned Davis/Ellis, well first of all Davis is one of the strongest guards in the league, and the Warriors had a guy named Jason Richardon who is 6-6 playing shooting guard as well. Like I said before its not impossible to win with a small back court some teams in the past have done it like the Pistons when they had Dumars/Thomas. However, a Foye/Duhon back court is not one that would have success imo. Lets see what happens though, I will just leave it at that, because if your convinced it would work there is nothing I can say that will change your mind.</div> I don't think it will be that good, which i've said before. I think it will be an upgrade though. I really don't see a problem with a 6'3" Foye guarding and 6'6" sg. It's only 3 inches, big whoop. I think it is about talent. And a back court of Duhon and Foye and more talented than our current one of... well i don't even know what ours is right now lol. I just think it is more about talent than size. I mean do you really think that smush (big pg) and Kobe is better than lets say AI and devin harris?
<div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think it will be that good, which i've said before. I think it will be an upgrade though. I really don't see a problem with a 6'3" Foye guarding and 6'6" sg. It's only 3 inches, big whoop. I think it is about talent. And a back court of Duhon and Foye and more talented than our current one of... well i don't even know what ours is right now lol. </div> If the Mike James trade if official I believe it is Foye and Mccants... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I just think it is more about talent than size. I mean do you really think that smush (big pg) and Kobe is better than lets say AI and devin harris?</div> I would actually take the back court with Kobe because if the game was close Kobe could easily score on either AI or Harris. But I can see the point your trying to make.
<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If the Mike James trade if official I believe it is Foye and Mccants... I would actually take the back court with Kobe because if the game was close Kobe could easily score on either AI or Harris. But I can see the point your trying to make.</div> well then i guess it's just personnal preference
<div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think it will be that good, which i've said before. I think it will be an upgrade though. I really don't see a problem with a 6'3" Foye guarding and 6'6" sg. It's only 3 inches, big whoop. I think it is about talent. And a back court of Duhon and Foye and more talented than our current one of... well i don't even know what ours is right now lol. I just think it is more about talent than size. I mean do you really think that smush (big pg) and Kobe is better than lets say AI and devin harris?</div> I think you'll quickly realize when bigger guards like Vince Carter abuse a smaller 2 like Foye in the high post, it is somewhat of a liability. It can work, yes, but the rest of the team has to be pretty good defensively and you need a defensive swingman you can put out there if needed. Now, Trenton Hassell for you guys comes to mind for the latter. A shot blocker wouldn't hurt either.
