GOP Insiders: The Paul Ryan pick is a complete disaster

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  1. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    She'll be doing the Hood to Coast for the 21st year in a row next weekend after next. You can wait for her along the route.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Reagan's budget directer David Stockman weighs in on Ryan's plan

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/opinion/paul-ryans-fairy-tale-budget-plan.html?_r=4

    In short, Mr. Ryan’s plan is devoid of credible math or hard policy choices. And it couldn’t pass even if Republicans were to take the presidency and both houses of Congress. Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan have no plan to take on Wall Street, the Fed, the military-industrial complex, social insurance or the nation’s fiscal calamity and no plan to revive capitalist prosperity — just empty sermons.

    STOMP
     
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    Good find.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/david-stockman-paul-ryan-budget-2012-8

    Specifically, Stockman observes, Ryan's "phony" budget plan:

    • Maintains Defense spending that is nearly twice the $400 billion (adjusted for today's dollars) that General Eisenhower spent in the 1960s
    • Shreds the safety net provided by $100 billion in food stamps and $300 billion in Medicaid
    • Does not cut one dime from Medicare or Social Security for another decade
    • Includes no serious plan to create jobs
    • Radically cuts taxes on the richest Americans while eliminating tax breaks that mostly help the middle class
    • Fails to even consider a "value-added sales tax," which is the only way the country can begin to climb out of its budget hole
     
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    she'll be the one tripping on her... oh nevermind.
     
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    This must be why he's not running on hope and change.
     
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    "Empty sermons" were Reagan's speeches in the 1980 campaign that got him elected by constantly promising to balance the budget. Within about 3 months of inauguration he fired Stockman, who like me had believed Reagan really intended to do it. By then we knew Reagan was a consummate liar and Stockman was shooting straight.
     
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    Surprise! DailyKOS looking for dirt instead of confronting the policies.
     
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    sheep.
     
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    yes sir, yes sir, three bags full. (I won't tell you what it's full of though)
     
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    Stockman hasn't said anything positve about any major public figure in 20 years, nor has he had anything positive to say about any budgets in forever. He is prepetual negative. (not that he isn't right about most of it, but WTF does it matter?)

    See Stockman part of any campaigns? See Stockman running for office? See Stockman drafting a budget for any national figure?

    No. Know why?

    Stockman's ideas are a complete disaster politically. He can't get elected. No national figure can get elected by telling the "truth", ie, the free lunch is over and if you want goodies it is will cost you.

    So, when Stockman complains that a congressperson's ideas don't go far enough or don't add up or whatever, he is right, but completely irrelevant.
     
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    Looks like SlyPokerDog found another poster to flex his small man's muscles toward on the interwebs.

    WOOF!!
     
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    A little late to the party. But, yeah, thats how it transpired...:crazy:
     
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    Stockman served as Reagan's Director of the Office of Management and Budget from 1981-85

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    more mud

    Paul Ryan sure doesn't stop giving ammunition.
     
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    I was for the stimulus before I was against the stimulus?
     
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    I was against the stimulus before I was for the stimulus, but It was only ironically for the stimulus.

    Hipster Candidates are the new flip floppers!
     

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