Shamsports has Outlaw's contract at 3.6M. McDyess is at 4.5M, with a guarantee on next year's 4.86M, and an unguaranteed third year of 5.22M. It would not have been difficult to make a matching offer or better. Miller did not have anyone else willing to make a commitment over the MLE and we could have put more guarantees on the third year of his contract to make it equal to the one he signed. The cross comment is pretty lame. Am I supposed to feel bad that it matters little to KP what a guy (even with five lower bowl seats) on a message board thinks about his moves (or lack of)?
more then difficult, it wouldn't have been possible. Dealing Travis to Memphis wouldn't have changed their amount of available capspace because roughly the same amount of contract $$$ would have been coming back. Portland used nearly all of their capspace signing Miller. What KP could have done to create more capspace is to not have picked up the options on Travis and/or Steve Blake. But that would have had to happen before the FA signing period and he would have been at risk of not having Free Agency tip his way. If he's competing for McDyess's services with an even stronger contender, he's probably going to have to overpay. The bird in hand saying springs to mind. btw... probably the most referred to capspace resource here is available through S2 in the dropdown Sportstwo carrot in upper right hand corner of the page. It's regularly updated and the guy in charge of it (Storyteller) has proven over the years to be very on top of things. He disagrees with Shamsports on the dollars and that the 3rd year is unguaranteed, but maybe he's got this one wrong When a player gets over 32 or so, I'm pretty wary of commitment... I think they got Miller on cheap but I absolutely love that the 3rd year is a team option. It's a fantastic contract from the team's perspective. STOMP
If the Milsap offer had not been matched, it was rumored that we already had a deal worked out with Memphis to move Outlaw. They could have absorbed the entire amount without sending back anything after it was matched. They spent their last money on AI very late. Or, we could have just not picked his deal up before the draft or traded for another non-guaranteed deal plus considerations. I do not think Travis is the best KP could have done at backup PF. It reflected in my grade. You think differently and I can accept that. Edit:I know Sham does a great job on reporting non-guarantees and would give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. The salary index you referred to has only a couple of players having non-guarantees for the Mavericks. It has been quoted in other articles, but Drew Gooden and Jason Terry both have funny money in their deals.
first of all ask yourself why in the world would Memphis want Outlaw? They have lots of capspace because they're notorious tightwads. Rudy Gay is the same size and sort of player but better at most everything. I guess it's possible but it sure doesn't pass the initial smell test. I know they signed AI who doesn't seem to make sense on the court either but at least dude should put butts in seats and sell some jerseys. So based on some random rumor you heard, after the Millsap deal fell through they could have moved Outlaw to Memphis for capspace? Then what, sign McDyess? UFA Mcdyess was signed by the Spurs on July 8th. RFA Millsap was signed by Portland on July 11th... & of course the Jazz had a week to match. isn't this exactly the point I made in the prior post? If you had made it instead of suggesting the impossible, then I'd have accepted it as a difference of opinion instead of someone who wasn't recalling things correctly. I could give a crap about such a trivial thing as an offseason grade for Portland's GM from someone I'll most likely never meet... why keep flaunting it as if I should? I asked politely how a roster at least 2 deep at every spot with proven NBA talent is "lopsided as hell". I gave specific examples how they are in fact very balanced in the paint and on the perimeter with proven NBA players. You then revealed yourself to mainly just to hate Outlaw so much that you're willing to get rid of him at the risk of having Jeff "Crutches" Pendergraph as the only backup 4 on the roster and despite the fact that as an expiring deal he might hold far more value at the upcoming trade deadline. As I'm understanding it, you feel the roster is "unbalanced as hell" mainly because you don't like the cheap (3.6M) effective (career 15.0 PER) backup PF and too many deep bench guys are SFs. Also, KP did a poor job this summer because he didn't act on some questionable rumor (you haven't bothered to link) to sign an oft-injured 35 year old to a guaranteed 3 year deal at more then 15M... which couldn't have happened because the Spurs had already signed him. So sorry I made an off handed remark that you didn't like. Good day sir STOMP
If Memphis agreed to a deal after, they would have agreed to it before as well. If missing out on McDyess meant not being able to offer Milsap a deal, so be it. Will leave it at that to avoid confusion. Brandon Roy also thought we needed an upgrade at backup PF with Turiaf and you can pick any link you want for that: http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt...ork brandon roy&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-501&sao=1 And I disagreed with Oden and LA being capable scorers down low. At worst we would have been able to get Joe Smith. As said long before, I have been holding my breath since the Zach trade. I will not do it again for this upcoming trade deadline in hopes of getting something for Blake or Travis. Already stated . If you understand it differently, I cannot fix it. Explaining again, he would have received a higher grade but would still have been hit for my above reasons. Will restate that your listing of what is guaranteed and unguaranteed is flawed. Here is your link for Drew Gooden's contract: http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=1927
If KP had been willing to part with Batum (and......), it would have netted us Gerald Wallace. Personally, I hope Batum eventually becomes worth not pulling the trigger on that one.
Revisiting the Gerald Wallace trade, it looks less and less appealing now. Batum is probably going to be somewhat similar in skill level when he reaches his prime. Unlike Wallace, though, he can hit a three pointer. It would've been very, very hard to see us adding Miller to a team with Wallace at SF.
what you write continues to confuse. Did you mean to say... if signing McDyess meant not being able to offer Millsap a deal, so be it? Well what do you do if he still signs with the Spurs because the money is similar enough and they have a much more prominent role available? What if he and Timmy are bros from way back? He's probably the 2nd best Big on the Spurs instead of 4th best on Portland... dude might want to play. Thats a lot of risk (age, dollars & potentially having only JHoward + Pendercrutches at backup PF) and little reward/upside to your plan. You're not very good at this. I clicked every link on the first page and only the first one deals at all with what you're claiming Brandon thought and that one is reporting third hand info. There are no quotes at all to give any sort of context. For all we know he answered a question positively on whether he'd like to play with his friend Ronnie... I bet he wouldn't mind Dwight Howard as the backup PF either. That Ronnie is coming off a solid year + signed to a reasonable longterm deal and the lack of Bigs in GS doesn't add up to good reason to speculate the W's are really looking to move him... not to Brandon or anyone else. Besides all that, I asked for a link to the "Memphis rumors" that I never heard of. How was Joe Smith a lock? Dude is from the East Coast and may start for the Hawks. He'd get 10-15 MPG tops in Portland. Drew Gooden??? STOMP
