Grade Olshey Thus Far As Blazers GM

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by ABM, Aug 16, 2019.

?

What Overall Grade Do You Give Olshey?

  1. A+

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. A

    4 vote(s)
    6.1%
  3. A-

    11 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. B+

    19 vote(s)
    28.8%
  5. B

    19 vote(s)
    28.8%
  6. B-

    5 vote(s)
    7.6%
  7. C+

    3 vote(s)
    4.5%
  8. C

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  9. C-

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  10. D

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  1. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    48,698
    Likes Received:
    33,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    To be fair... They probably didnt make it because they couldnt utilize secondary pitches and be consistent.
     
  2. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    There are always various reason and I agree that some didn't make it because they couldn't consistently throw strikes, lacked movement or didn't have a decent breaking ball. It might get you noticed but it takes more than that to make it. stomp seems to think the god given talent is enough.
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2019
  3. Kaydow

    Kaydow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2008
    Messages:
    2,057
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Occupation:
    Construction Sales
    Location:
    Happy Valley
    Blazers were 36-17 at the trade deadline during LA’s last year in PDX (55 win pace). Before WM injury they were thought to have one of the best starting 5 units in the league. After winning first playoff series in 14 years the previous year, LA guaranteed that offseason that he was going to re-sign the next summer when he was eligible for a 5 year extension instead of a 3 year. There was no reason to believe he was going to bolt before the trade deadline of his final season here. It was bad luck that WM Achilles blew because afterwards the team took a nosedive, which probably caused LA to change his mind. There were obviously other reasons for his departure, but it’s hard to fault NO for the way things played out. LA gave his word that he was coming back, & then decided to play through a hand injury (that required surgery & would have ended his season) because of how well the team was playing that season. All signs pointed to LA being committed to PDX. Let’s say NO had traded LA before the deadline when the team was still considered a contender. How would he explain that when EVERYONE thought LA was going to re-sign? We made the move because, even though we were playing well & in contention for a championship, we were afraid LA was going to go back on his word & bolt? You have to go for it when you’re having a season like that!
     
    HailBlazers likes this.
  4. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    No
     
    UKRAINEFAN likes this.
  5. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2014
    Messages:
    23,631
    Likes Received:
    34,978
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A guy with olsheys ego reads everything. He just pretends it doesn’t matter to him.
     
  6. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    19,824
    Likes Received:
    23,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Baby Daddy
    Location:
    Chasing my kids
    Thats KD!
     
    Propagandist and kjironman1 like this.
  7. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    A guy with Olsheys ego doesnt care what fans think. Unless he feels like getting a laugh at some of the comments, maybe.
     
    kjironman1 likes this.
  8. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2014
    Messages:
    23,631
    Likes Received:
    34,978
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Very few things an egoist cares more about than how people perceive him.
     
    BonesJones likes this.
  9. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    While true, Olshey feels there are only a handful of people whose opinion of him truly matters. Which I think is a very good thing. Everyone else doesnt know that the F they are talking about.
     
  10. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2014
    Messages:
    23,631
    Likes Received:
    34,978
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I’m not saying he actually makes decisions around what fans say, obviously that’d be dumb, but the question was whether or not he’s actually read this board. My bet is he has.
     
  11. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    yeah, wasnt insinuating that he actually considered anything, obviously not, but i just dont think he reads this. i'd bet money on it, but can understand why others would believe this.
     
  12. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,783
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    The only reason I really had asked the question was because I know for a fact that KP used to read our forum....as well as other fan sites. KP was/is kind of a free spirit, though.
     
  13. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    13,474
    Likes Received:
    11,445
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He was never going to re-sign with us. A guarantee without signing on the dotted line meant he was leaving. He should have been on the trading block as soon as he said he wanted to wait to sign.

    And I said that publicly leading up to that season.

    I don't blame Olshey too much for trusting him (which is why I still gave him an A), but the smart move would have been trading him for the best possible return we could get.
     
  14. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,279
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    The rules were different then. Signing an extension would have been way less than what he could make the next summer.

    Saying what you said also ignores the fact that Aldridge maybe was planning on staying until Wes got hurt.
     
    HailBlazers and kjironman1 like this.
  15. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    13,474
    Likes Received:
    11,445
    Trophy Points:
    113
    None of that matters. If you're Portland you can't afford to take that chance. If Aldridge isn't ok with that he's not a good fit here long term anyway.
    You trade them before they can do what Aldridge did. Every time. No exceptions.
     
    Hobbesarable likes this.
  16. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,279
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    Respectfully, this is complete and utter bullshit.

    The Blazers were contenders. You don't trade your best player when you have your first glimpse of contention in 15 years. No exceptions.
     
  17. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2014
    Messages:
    19,154
    Likes Received:
    19,916
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Got to agree with this. You just don't trade a dominant PF on a contender. The year before he put up 40+ twice in the Playoffs against Houston. You certainly don't trade him if he is saying he is staying.
     
  18. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Were they contenders? They made it out of the 1st round against a pretty bleh Rockets team. They looked like a good regular season team but who knows if that team was built for the post-season. I couldn't see them having a chance against the Spurs or Warriors.

    And then you consider that we had a young star in Dame who I think it was pretty obvious that we should build around instead, and we could have easily built ourselves for a 10-year window of contention by being a little more patient and not taking the risk on an aging PF staying true to his word (when he already caused problems).

    A great GM would've flipped Aldridge for young assets/picks and went forward with Lillard, McCollum, Barton, etc. We were a 2nd round team after Aldridge left, just imagine if we got value back for him, and kept Barton?
     
  19. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Sounds like it was the perfect time to sell high. If he didn't want to resign that summer and there had been inklings of him wanting out and he had immense trade value due to that series, then that could've set the franchise up for a possible dynasty if we got value back for him.

    I see why people are saying why we wouldn't trade him but I think a GM should have more insight and foresight than Blazer fans. I don't know. Looking back on it, we were in a perfect position to trade Aldridge and build around the better, younger player in Dame.
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  20. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    13,474
    Likes Received:
    11,445
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Right. That's always worked out well for small market teams. Like, never.

    Aldridge was as good as gone as soon as he decided not to extend. And you see how giving him the benefit of a doubt ended up.

    His wishy washy character coupled with his first great playoff performance made it a slam dunk. He should have been dealt.
     
    Hobbesarable likes this.

Share This Page