That was a terrible mive value wise for Denver. Thing is, Plumlee wasnt a rental, he was a RFA after the season and they kept him. He replaced 4 starters, one with the guard he put a mediocre rental in front of the year before and 3 other role players. I dont think he's done a bad job, I just think that a B or an A wouldve meant getting Dame another legitimate all-star. Probably a hard grade, but its not negative or positive. Hes made mistakes and made some solid moves, but ultimately not the koves thatd make us a front-runner.
Agree with this. I didnt say it was all that bad, but its still a black mark in terms of howbit played out and how CJ looked ready before and definitely after the Wes injury.
Why do you keep bringing Afflalo into the discussion if you didn't factor that into your grade? Also, you don't have any idea how much influence Paul Allen had on the contracts of 2016. He could have very well said get them signed when Olshey brought forth the demands from the agents. The reality is, we have had to endure 2 rebuilds during Olshey's tenure here. First one was the Felton era debacle before Olshey got here and then having to replace several players for the first season he was here and after that he has had the Blazers in the playoffs all but his first year and in the WCF without one of our top players (Nurkic) and top bench player out injured (Kanter) being severely hobbled. C is a ridiculous grade as that should be reserved for teams that maybe are competitive but still don't make the playoffs.
I don't know why you're reciting what happened as if I don't know If Olshey couldn't construct a playoff team around the best Blazer ever, then hed deserve far worse than a C.
one thing about using making-the-playoffs as a gauge of the GM....Portland was in the playoffs for 21 straight years and 26 of 27 years. Over that stretch, they won the WCF three times, and the championship. They won 18 playoff series. They had 10 all-stars who appeared in 27 all-star games. They were swept in a playoff series 4 times in 27 years vs the current team having been swept 3 times in 4 years. The standard for a Blazer GM is pretty high
Also, C is a middle grade. The average NBA team makes the playoffs because 16 of 30 make it. So considering Neil was setup with the best or 2nd best Blazer ever, thats not a guage for his performance IMO.
One thing I think you guys are slightly glossing over is that Olshey has kept his Superstar here in Portland. Most other small market teams have had to deal with their star players wanting out or leaving the first chance they get. I think Olshey deserves a little credit for that.
I don't think Dame stayed here because of Olshey. Dame's a different breed. He could've transferred from Weber State to somewhere bigger and didn't.
okay, the optimistic point of view would be that Olshey has had the Blazers in the playoffs all but one year. His teams have had 2 of the top 10 records in franchise history. We were a 3 seed in consecutive seasons in the extremely tough west. 6 consecutive years of being in the playoffs with 2 three seeds a 4th and a 5th seed. Advanced to the second round 3 of 6 times and 1 wcf appearance. He also drafted Lillard, McCollum, Collins and Simons which is a pretty good nucleus considering where we were drafting and traded for Nurkic as well as signing Hood and Kanter which was critical to our run last year in the playoffs. By the way, are you the c- vote?
Nah he injured himself two months before. Read it. So you are gonna try to go with Total shooting percentage instead of simple makes and misses. I just read every box score in Feb 2015. CJ went 17 of 43 in the 7 games he played. A dismal 39%. He also turned the ball over 7 times on 6 dimes. You destroyed Turner last year for less. CJ was not shooting well at all. He was getting scouted and they were making him take bad shots. Then they were moving on him the second he tried to pass out which was never early enough in the shot clock to do any good. It's not just CJ's misses but the bad offense that was happening when he was on the court. The bad offense was turning into worse defense. These are the same things people have said about CJ for the last three years. There is no question CJ has improved his game dramatically since 2014-15. Now lets get this straight. I love what CJ brings NOW. But this Idea he was able to step up and take on Championship caliber minutes at that point in his career is a pipe dream at best. We are not even talking about the Ole defense he was putting out there. Just defense alone was enough reason for them to try to shore up that position. Point is trying to say the Afflalo trade was a bad move simply isn't the case.
Eh, my memory was him doing better than that. He was ready though, just needed some consistency. He proved it that postseason.
Yep. So why should it be a black mark for olshey? Because it isn't. So if anyone thinks it is, they are wrong. Simple as that.
I'd say that's a lot more because of Dame rather than the GM. Dame is pretty unique by the way, Drexler was in Portland 12 seasons. C+
If you want me to go look at the box scores for the 5th through 8th week i will do that but i'm telling you CJ was not playing well at all through Jan. Then in Feb he started getting minutes But as i already pointed out February was still not a great look either. Again the point is Neil Olshey was looking at a team that could have possibly made a run at a Chip. He was charged to get a player that could fill the gaps that the roster had. He did that. We are not having this conversation if Mathews stays healthy. I'm with @Strenuus on this. This discussion is pointless at best to continue.
A C grade is also in the extreme minority of opinions on this forum as only 2 people voted C or less with over 40 votes tabulated and only 4 total out of all the votes were below B-. Your opinion isn't shared by very many posters.
You might be right, it was a while ago. He was gwtting healthy DNPs though. I didn't think people would want to dive so deep into the Afflalo part of my post.
