Politics Grand jury subpoenas issued in FBI's Russia investigation

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Not clear what you mean. Are you claiming the crime happened at the hotel rather than the office building? Even if that were true, which it isn't, how would that be relevant?

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    Now you're getting it. It's not relevant. That's why the analogy was better than yours.
     
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    He he. Yep, nothing to see here, possibly due to a huge amount of completely harmless black smoke. And the heat, that surely isn't from flames (or from global warming).

    Everything is just fine.

    If only the media would leave poor Mr. Trump alone, he could make America great again. Mean old media.

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    Any smoke is a figment of fevered imaginations.

    I don't suggest the media leave Trump alone or even treat him nicely. I do suggest they do their jobs ethically.
     
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    Go on, keep pushing that rock uphill. I'll wait.

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    FIFY
     
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    Robert Mueller Eliminates Trump’s Trump Card

    Donald Trump’s ability to issue presidential pardons has been the ultimate weapon looming over Robert Mueller’s investigation. Trump could potentially pardon himself of any crimes. More important, he could dangle a pardon to his former staffers to encourage them not to supply Mueller with any incriminating information on Trump. Mueller is apparently handling his investigating like the prosecution of a mob boss, pressuring underlings to flip on the boss. Trump’s advantage is that, unlike a mob boss, he can give out an unlimited number of get-out-of-jail-free cards. Trump has reportedly mused in public about using the pardon — and his pardon of Joe Arpaio flaunted his willingness to use it on behalf of a political ally, even in outrageous fashion.

    But it turns out that there is a flaw in Trump’s strategy. The presidential pardon only applies to federal crimes. As NBC reported last night, it is possible for state governments to press charges in some of the alleged crimes committed by Trump’s cronies. “You would have to find that one of those [election] crimes occurred in New York,” Jennifer Rodgers, a former federal prosecutor, told NBC. Of course, some of the alleged crimes almost certainly did take place in New York. And sure enough, Josh Dawsey reports, Mueller is teaming up with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman. “One of the people familiar with progress on the case said both Mueller’s and Schneiderman’s teams have collected evidence on financial crimes, including potential money laundering,” he notes.

    Trump can pardon anybody facing charges from Mueller, but not from Schneiderman. It is probably significant that Mueller is letting this fact be known to Trump’s inner circle. Trump’s biggest source of leverage over Mueller just disappeared.
     
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    Trump will sell the state of New York to the Russians. Problem solved.

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    Triggered!
     
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    oh yeah....but it's not even loaded!
     
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    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/31/fbi-comey-clinton-email-242213?lo=ap_e1

    GOP senators: Comey drafted statement clearing Clinton before her interview
    Grassley, Graham say evidence suggests decision not to file charges was 'prejudged'.

    Former FBI Director James Comey began drafting a statement rejecting the idea of criminal charges against Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton over her private email account about two months or more before Clinton was interviewed in the FBI probe, according to partial transcripts of interviews released Thursday by two Republican senators.

    Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley and Sen. Lindsey Graham said they obtained the transcripts from the Office of Special Counsel, a government watchdog agency that launched an investigation into whether Comey's actions violated a federal law against government employees engaging in political activity while on duty.

    In a letter sent Wednesday to Comey's successor, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Grassley and Graham said Comey's move to start preparing the statement sometime in April or early May reflected a premature conclusion that Clinton shouldn't be charged.

    "Conclusion first, fact-gathering second—that’s no way to run an investigation. The FBI should be held to a higher standard than that, especially in a matter of such great public interest and controversy," Grassley and Graham wrote as they demanded all FBI records of the drafts Comey prepared as well as other materials related to the OSC probe.
     
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    Lorreta Lynch is the guilty party when it comes to the Clinton get out of trouble card, but that's all water under the bridge now...if anyone should get in trouble over the dems campaign and practices...it's her. She broke the rules....old news. Comey is the scapegoat now really only because he didn't follow Trump's lead..Comey has also kept detailed records of all this.....Lynch is the dems version of Mannafort.
     
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    Comey's integrity is in question. It makes Trump firing him even more justified.

    That isn't a biased opinion on my part. These are things that will be considered by Mueller. Or at least they should. If any trials occur, the defense will (or should) raise these things.
     
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    WaPost hasn't purged all of it's center right leaning op ed writers yet. Some bits of this opinion piece are objective Truths.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...ce-of-collusion-fades/?utm_term=.6595b4338eef

    The Trump-Russia story survives, even as evidence of collusion fades

    The media have too much invested in the Russia collusion conspiracy to just pack up and leave. So, they are eager to report on Paul Manafort’s work for Ukraine between 2012 and 2014 and the raid of his house earlier this year — as if either has something to do with Trump. They herald the subpoenas issued to former national security adviser Michael Flynn and anything even remotely concerning Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with the Russian attorney at Trump Tower. And now, they are flogging a story about a Trump Organization executive trying to get some relief on a stalled project in Russia. But, as reports show, the executive didn’t even get the courtesy of a reply. The fact that the Kremlin completely stiff-armed this friendly overture suggests Trump and Russia were anything but colluding co-conspirators. Right?
     
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    I don't buy this at all...Trump fired Comey after being called out on not towing the Trump smokescreens
     
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    I've said all along Trump probably has little hands on connection to the Russian attempts at influencing elections...what he may have connection to however is money laundering and tax evasion....he's pretty experienced at dodging responsibility for shady business deals...and has a history of having a team of fall guys in place just in case things go wrong.....follow the money
     
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    He fired Comey within days of Comey's own testimony which showed Comey to operate outside the law. Not just that he admitted to leaking government documents that he had no right to, but deciding on the right of the Atty General to exercise her duties.
     
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    Those things are outside the mandate of Mueller's investigation.
     
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    Mannafort is that fall guy
     

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