Trade Grant to Portland for Mil first done deal

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  1. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    We've seen a player better than CJ go to another team and get way less in return during the Olshey era.
     
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    I have read this a few times on this board and I am not seeing the logic especially since they spend so much time these days on the perimeter. I agree that Nas is a natural SF, but I don't see why a player who weighs 220 with a 7.2" wing span (Little) can get hurt more often while playing PF any more than a guy who weighs 210 with the same wing span (Grant)

    I like that they can switch when needed. But I agree about Sochan, he would fit well on this team
     
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    there are at least a couple guys in the draft that fight through screens - Johnny Davis and Jeremy Sochan.
     
  5. MickZagger

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    Might be coaching. They might be told there’s too many good shooters out there so don’t fight through screens just switch before it’s set.
     
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    Second round?? He never got out of the FIRST round.
     
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    I don't know. That second team had a great bench- Curry, Kanter, Hood, Turner, Collins all contributed to winning that season.
     
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    Sochan makes so much sense for us at this point. You can start Nas and Grant, but Sochan might ultimately be starting over Nas heading into the playoffs, especially if he proves to be a great point of attack defender right away.

    He would be the perfect fit next to Grant. He’s overall a great defender and will require the least shots. If he can hit catch and shoot 3s at a high clip, he might start really soon. 6’8 Grant and 6’9 Sochan make up for the size in the backcourt.
     
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    Yes. Deals are handshake agreed to when reported by Woj, but officially finalized later.

    Grant deal may ultimately end up as part of a multi team trade if either us or Detroit later wants to.
     
  10. WesleyMatthews

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    Trades can.

    Free agent signing, and sign and trades involving draft picks? Never happens.
     
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    Why would a role for a rookie "make so much sense"?

    The Blazers aren't contenders, and rookies in the lottery should be picked based off BPA.
     
  12. illmatic99

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    Taking a better fit instead of BPA at 7 because of Jerami Grant is blasphemous in my mind. If this experiment with Grant fails, he could potentially walk in a year. And then you're stuck with your "perfect fit" while the BPA is on another team.
     
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    I was just talking about skillset. Great defender, good catch and shoot guy, won’t require shots to be kept happy.
     
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    I mean I guess it depends on who the BPA is. If trading down nets a 2023 1st and/or more with Sochan, I’d be on board with that, yes. Like if I get Sochan + Dort + 2023 1st for BPA at #7, I’d have to really consider it.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Not only that, but you can't trade Nurk because he's a free agent.
     
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    I thought Grant's salary next season is too big for the TPE. I think that is why the news broke today - so it can be 'official' before the draft on Thursday
     
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    That being said, Sochan might be the BPA for some people if Sharpe and Murray are gone.
     
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    No, it fits because there's 100k wiggle room.

    https://cbabreakdown.com/salary-cap-exceptions

    The Traded Player Exception is the most intriguing (and inscrutable) part of the CBA. This exception allows teams to trade players and exceed the salary cap in the process. How this exception operates depends on (1) the perspective of the trading team (and trades can be structured entirely differently from each team’s perspective), (2) whether a team trades players simultaneously or in separate deals, and (3) whether a player’s salary is protected in full or not. The rules for simultaneous vs. non-simultaneous trades are discussed below. Note, non-simultaneous trades are the ones that result in a trade “credit” that can be used for up to one year; this credit is often confusingly referred to as a “trade exception” when the CBA never uses that term. If a player’s salary is not protected in full, the way the exception is calculated is based on just the player’s protected compensation (as opposed to the player’s protected and unprotected compensation).

    Non-simultaneous trades
    — For trades of players that occur at different times, the Traded Player Exception permits a team to take back 100% of the outgoing player’s salary, plus $100,000. Using the non-simultaneous trade rule permits a trade to initially “start” by sending out a player and then be completed down the road in a separate trade (i.e., in October, Team A sends out a player but only receives a draft pick from Team B; then Team A completes the trade in January by taking a player back into this “trade credit” from Team C).

    • Rule — A traded player may be replaced in a non-simultaneous transaction by one or more players acquired in a different trade whose salaries together do not exceed 100% of the traded player’s salary plus $100,000.

    • Example — Make the same assumptions as the non-taxpaying scenario above. A team previously traded a $10 million player for a draft pick. As a result, the team now has a $10 million trade credit that it has up to one year to use. That team could trade a draft pick for a player or players making $10.1 million. ($10 million plus $100,000.))

    Grant's 2022-23 cap number: $20,955,000

    Our TPE from the CJ trade: $20,864,198

    Just works out!
     
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    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    All the tough posts about Jerami Grant over the last few weeks i understand. I feel this was a good move. Not only do we know this guy has the potential to help the team compete but i feel he was in a less than optimum place in Detroit.

    I'm hoping he can find some new MoJo with Chauncey and Dame? Might be a great fit?
     
  20. TBpup

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    Good fit. I'm just concerned about the amount of the new contract he wants.
     
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