you wonder why its always next year? our fans accept that so kpee gets a free pass. people buy tickets and settle for it. it will be the same next year too. oden gets hurt by xmas. roys hammy acts up by all star break. joel is a shell of his former self. too many players want pt. i can see it now. nothing will change. kpee will sugar coat on why we shouldnt deal cause hes chicken shit.
So you think Portland would be better off with RJ or Carter instead of Miller? Jefferson is available, by the way... wonder why.
I haven't heard anything about RJ being available. I haven't even heard of the Spurs even looking at trading at all.
Every time a thread about Pritchard comes up, someone says, well what exact trade was (is) available (now, or when we had LaFrentz, or whenever). Can't just rely upon an old thread in which many posters had read the same thing. Even if the response is to cite the trades available at the time, which would be proven to a court's satisfaction because multiple writers got the same information from multiple GMs, the answer is then-- Can you prove that the articles existed? So a past article is linked. Can you name an unnamed GM, not just the multiple writers vouching that they heard this from multiple GMs? Even if that is provided, then-- Do you have the exact quote? No. And even if we did, I can imagine the next objections from Pritchard defenders-- Can you get a sworn statement from the GM that the reporters aren't all lying? I want to see the paperwork submitted to the league. No, a copy won't do, don't you have the original? You do? Not certified by a Notary Public? Well forget it then. Alright then. All the reporters were lying. So my point here wasn't to say that Carter and Jefferson aren't taking time to adjust to their new teams. (Actually, it's the guys we would have given up, Fernandez and Bayless, who are taking far more time. We still would have come out ahead on the trades.) My point is to show that here again is a reporter (Quick) who will be called a liar in a future thread when Pritchard defenders again challenge us that any possible trade Pritchard could have ever made in history was all rumors and lies. (Even if it were true that no offer has ever happened, it'd be because of his inaction in negotiating to make offers happen, as he often admits, such as in this article.) But it doesn't surprise me that his defenders (any of you personal friends?) will twist it this way and that. If there's anyone who's good at making friends, it's Pritchard. Whitsitt used to stay in the office, too busy running 20 companies for nonsense.
"Next year" is PERFECTLY reasonable. Even setting aside the number of injuries we've had, this team is still very, very young. We might make it into the playoffs in spite of being decimated with injuries and next year the team should be both healthier AND more experienced... while losing almost nothing unless they trade them away and/or let them walk. If the team can improve this year without costing us much of anything in the future? Great. Trade Outlaw/Blake to get something for this year, sure. But don't move guys who are less proven (in good ways and bad) just to get a bump up this season. Ed O.
^ (jlprk) Feel better for having shared? I don't think many of us who have defended KP against the unending no-trade blather on this board would argue that there haven't been deals available to be had. KP even says as much in Quick's article that there are deals he could make today if he were willing to pay the price of multiple young players. I believe that the comment regarding Jefferson and Carter wasn't saying that those players couldn't have been had last year, but that they wouldn't have been worth the price. Their stats this year indicate that KP knew what he was doing in passing on guys who are on bloated contracts that aren't worth the declining production they bring. Are Fernandez and Bayless better than Carter and Jefferson right now? No, but they're young enough and talented enough that they have upside. Carter and Jefferson don't. They're also a whole lot more affordable than these falling former All-Stars. KP may or may not make a deal before the deadline, but he's certainly not going to make one just to satisfy the message board BS that gets posted here on a daily basis.
Previous Pritchard threads have had his defenders challenging us to precise details and proof about any unconsummated trade we remember the media having reported, no matter how many unnamed independent sources verified it. They won't even admit in the abstract that there have ever been any such trades, without proof. So I'm glad you're more honest about it, e-blazer, but some others are more rigid. The "upside" of Fernandez and Bayless has definitely fallen below last year's "up," and is still declining. Sell while the value is high. Rudy won't stay beyond his contract anyway. A perennial excuse, and whose fault is that?
That's not a perennial excuse. It's about three years of that excuse. The PatterNash teams were not particularly young and certainly not any good. As for this year... there is no "fault" for being young. Why would there be fault? A young competitive team promises to be at LEAST as good for many years to come. A young team like ours, with so much potentially starting-quality talent, has a chance to be something spectacular. In the mean time, we're in the playoff hunt in spite of a tremendous amount of injuries. Why is there fault in that? Ed O.
MIXUM, if KP does indeed make a deal, and it backfires, would you STFU, or would you whine like a little bitch about that too?
I don't have time now to find the link but I read a snippet on realgm that the Spurs would love to move his contract at the deadline but are very unlikely to find any takers. I don't know how legit it is but he's playing at a below average level (a "PERS" of ~12) with suspect defense and a huge contract, so it's not too hard to believe.
I haven't read all of this thread, but is somebody actually advocating trading for Dick Jefferson??? That would be a HUGE mistake!
