I think he'd be going to a team that has cap space to sign him in the summer. Do you think he'd want to play in Atlanta? I don't, and he has veto power. His best bet is to stay put and preserve his bird rights.
Yeah it really doesn't make sense for him to accept any trade. He would have way more flexibility to go to a team he wants via sign and trade to a team over cap. If that doesn't happen, he can still go to a team he is willing to play for that is under the cap.
A destination that sort of makes sense for Monroe is the Knicks. They'll surely have the cap space in the summer, but they won't be able to give him the max amount of money that a Bird contract could net him. But he may not be worthy of that big a contract anyway.
I don't think there is a team on the planet that will give him a max contract. He hasn't earned it. If he was smart, He would sign a 4 year with a player option on the 4th year. The new CBA kicks in, he will have bird rights and have a good 3 years to show just how valuable he is. I think he's got the skill to be a max level player, but he was in the wrong environment. Once he goes to a decent organization, he will do just fine, IMO
What was the status of Rondo's bird rights? This deal hinged upon Rondo agreeing to re-sign with Dallas. Couldn't the same be done with Greg? Remember, his agent wanted him in Portland last summer and holds Neil in high regard after the Hibbert deal.
No for this reason. Monroe is on his rookie deal. He was a restricted free agent this summer. There was no deal Monroe signed because he knew Detroit was going to match, so he didn't sign any. That makes him an unrestricted free agent this summer, by signing a "qualifying offer". The condition of the QO means the player cannot be traded unless that player accepts giving up his bird rights. So only until this summer he can either do a sign and trade for max (5 years) or signs a regular 4 year deal with a team under cap.
Cap experts - if we were to trade CJ/Leonard for Monroe would that give us more cap space to offer Monroe a better contract? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l4np57f
Cuban is more of a gambler than Paul is where Paul likes to play things more safe. Sometimes I do wish Paul was a little more like Cuban though.
Well it helps that Dallas would still have Rondo's bird rights. Monroe, we wouldn't. But I suspect you already knew that... LOL
Nope. A deal sending Batum out only resulted in about $10M in cap space, and that's assuming we waive Kaman and renounce TRob. Sending out just CJ and Leonard would not do the trick.
Not talking about a MAX deal - we shouldn't be signing bench players to MAX deals. And I wasn't meaning for the idea to be compared to a Batum/Monroe deal (which is just a stupid idea). But since Robinson won't have a cap hold, and CJ/Leonard do, it seems like sending out two cap hold players would at least free up a LITTLE space to be able to offer either Monroe or Robinson a little more than we could currently offer them. And while it probably still wouldn't be enough to keep Monroe here past this season, perhaps it would be enough to at least keep Robinson? I guess what I'm getting at is I'm interested in what the difference would be between what we could offer either player if we don't make any trades versus what we could offer them if we were to clear CJ/Leonard's holds off the books in a Monroe deal. I just feel like we should really try to have Monroe or Robinson as our back-up big. Giving up CJ/Leonard doesn't really impact our rotation at all, but would be a decent haul for DET who won't be getting much - if anything - in return for Monroe. And given the fact that we'd be giving DET two lotto picks, with team options, for one lotto pick without bird rights, perhaps we could even get a protected draft pick in the deal!
Oh I thought you already knew about Robinson. It doesn't matter how under cap we are, we can only offer him what his 4 year option is.
No worries bro. That's what's been really bothering me about not picking up his option. Any team with MLE can offer more than we can.
